JW Tardis

[galacticprobe]

Here's an example of the Estrangelo Edessa version that matches the Phone Panel (not the version that gives you symbols):

First, a crop of the original Phone Panel sign showing the font in question:


Now, the Estrangelo Edessa font that lofiscifi IDed:

You can see that everything matches except for that ampersand (&).

And here's a black letters on white version in case it helps:


In both cases above, size of the fonts aren't exactly to scale with the original, but are intended to be close enough to show the match between the lettering, but a mismatch between the "&". Is it possible they used a different font for that one symbol? Or is there another font out there that's almost identical to Estrangelo Edessa, and gives the proper ampersand?

Dino.

[deafeningsilence]

I thought we identified the ampersand as Gill Sans? I might be wrong.

Phone Panel Ampersand


Gill Sans Ampersand

[Angelus Lupus]

I'm going to say*: We can call it 99.99% matched: "Estrangelo Edessa with a Gill Sans ampersand". and Antonio is 100% a match for the tall letters.




*Unless another font emerges that is exactly the same as Estrangelo Edessa, but with a different &

[willbrooks1989]

the question is: were both boxes at the Red Carpet event actual filming props or was (at least) one a TPE stand-in?

Both boxes at the Red Carpet event were filming boxes. The one seen in the picture of Jodie and her cosplay doppelgängers is the one I've called 'TARDIS H', while the one on the red carpet itself is 'TARDIS I'.

TARDIS H was later moved inside for the reception at the event.

W

[Kingpin]

Is it possible they used a different font for that one symbol? Or is there another font out there that's almost identical to Estrangelo Edessa, and gives the proper ampersand?

It's well within possible, given how incestous the world of typography can be... And that's not even factoring in the licenced and unlicenced lookalikes.   *puts on brainy specs* The court would like to remind the jury of the historic case of Johnson v. Gill.

[Angelus Lupus]

Both boxes at the Red Carpet event were filming boxes...

I'll trust your proven skill in spotting these things  So, unless I'm getting things totally wrong (which, I admit, is possible) we can spot-the-difference on these two on-screen by the handles?

[Scarfwearer]

I've been going by the wood-grain patterns...

[galacticprobe]

I thought we identified the ampersand as Gill Sans? I might be wrong.

No; you're spot on. The ID was posted here: http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=306.msg114376#msg114376. (It just wasn't posted yet when I'd made mine above... either that or I just missed it first time round.)

I'm going to say*: We can call it 99.99% matched: "Estrangelo Edessa with a Gill Sans ampersand". and Antonio is 100% a match for the tall letters.

I can agree with this. Estrangelo Edessa looks like a 100 percent match for the lettering, Gill Sans looks like a 100 percent match for the ampersand (&), and Antonio is definitely a 100 percent match for the "POLICE TELEPHONE" and "PULL TO OPEN" lettering. (Still keeping the asterisk in mind, though, so maybe 99.9999 percent match for the entire sign. )

The one seen in the picture of Jodie and her cosplay doppelgängers is the one I've called 'TARDIS H', while the one on the red carpet itself is 'TARDIS I'.

Erm... I thought we'd agreed, a while back in another topic, that we were going to stop with the confusing TARDIS "X" stuff, and stick with the designations we'd been using for almost ever (i.e. "Brachacki-Original", "Brachacki-Altered", "Newbery", "Tom Yardley-Jones" (or "TYJ"/"TY-J"), etc.)... after the designers.

Ergo, these would be the "Arwel Wyn Jones" (or "AWJ") TARDISes; maybe "AWJ-1" and AWJ-2", but then which is which? Is "-1" the TARDIS with the square-ended handle, and "-2" the TARDIS with the domed-ended handle? Or is "-1" the TARDIS which appears on screen more often (in which case we could tag that one as having whichever handle)?

I do not want to slide back into the "TARDIS A, B, X, Y, Z, etc." confusing designations, especially since we'd already agreed to put a stop to it once because it had gotten too confusing.

ISo, unless I'm getting things totally wrong (which, I admit, is possible) we can spot-the-difference on these two on-screen by the handles?

I've been going by the wood-grain patterns...

Depending on the shot, it might be easier to discern the handles than it would the wood grain, unless we get nice close-ups of the TARDIS long enough to examine the wood grain. (And this is where those great screen grabs come in handy! )

Dino.

[Scarfwearer]

Will has a website detailing the seven(?) individual NST props we saw during the Series 1-10. Since these are otherwise difficult to distinguish/name he's given them individual letter names. These are not redundant with anything we're using.
If we wanted to use those names here, we'd want a handy key/recogniser. But that's probably best done as a separate topic...

[willbrooks1989]

Erm... I thought we'd agreed, a while back in another topic, that we were going to stop with the confusing TARDIS "X" stuff, and stick with the designations we'd been using for almost ever (i.e. "Brachacki-Original", "Brachacki-Altered", "Newbery", "Tom Yardley-Jones" (or "TYJ"/"TY-J"), etc.)... after the designers.

Ergo, these would be the "Arwel Wyn Jones" (or "AWJ") TARDISes; maybe "AWJ-1" and AWJ-2", but then which is which? Is "-1" the TARDIS with the square-ended handle, and "-2" the TARDIS with the domed-ended handle? Or is "-1" the TARDIS which appears on screen more often (in which case we could tag that one as having whichever handle)?

I do not want to slide back into the "TARDIS A, B, X, Y, Z, etc." confusing designations, especially since we'd already agreed to put a stop to it once because it had gotten too confusing.

Will has a website detailing the seven(?) individual NST props we saw during the Series 1-10. Since these are otherwise difficult to distinguish/name he's given them individual letter names. These are not redundant with anything we're using.
If we wanted to use those names here, we'd want a handy key/recogniser. But that's probably best done as a separate topic...

Aye, sorry, I should have specified!

Over at Medium.com/TARDIS-History, I've been using the A - I designations for the modern props, just as an easy way of telling them all apart in that specific narrative of the modern props. Over here, it's probably easiest to stick with Something like AWJ-1/AWJ-2, as you suggest Dino!

Planning to have the Jodie page ready to launch at the end of the series, as I did with the Capaldi updates last year.

W

[tony farrell]

To be mischievous for a moment  Dino, what happens when the modular parts start to get swapped around between the various props as they did with the TY-J Tardises or as they did with the 'classic series' Daleks? 

T

[davidnagel]

To be mischievous for a moment  Dino, what happens when the modular parts start to get swapped around between the various props as they did with the TY-J Tardises or as they did with the 'classic series' Daleks? 

T

You write a guide for them. Simple.

[Kingpin]

I thought we identified the ampersand as Gill Sans? I might be wrong.

No; you're spot on. The ID was posted here: http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=306.msg114376#msg114376. (It just wasn't posted yet when I'd made mine above... either that or I just missed it first time round.)

but then which is which? Is "-1" the TARDIS with the square-ended handle, and "-2" the TARDIS with the domed-ended handle? Or is "-1" the TARDIS which appears on screen more often (in which case we could tag that one as having whichever handle)?

I'd propose number them on what appeared first chronologically in our mixed media - in this case, making the prop that appeared in the promo poster AWJ-1.

Going back through the topic, here's the promo poster box/AWJ-1:
(earliest on-location filming) http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.30
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg107075#msg107075
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg107877#msg107877
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg109077#msg109077
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg113871#msg113871
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg114051#msg114051
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg114073#msg114073

AWJ-2 (First identifiably seen at that promo event with Jodie)
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg107696#msg107696
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg113173#msg113173
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg114081#msg114081

And then, for cateloguing sake, AWJ-TPE-1:
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8151.msg114357#msg114357

[Kingpin]

This popped up on my news feed:


Doctor Who Returns to Blackpool with a New Madame Tussauds Exhibit

-Which immediately made me recall this classic setup:


Now, at first I thought this new display at Madame Tussauds featured another This Planet Earth replica... But the full-size version of the photo tells a different story:


-It appears to be the first filming prop, AWJ-1 (the woodgrain of the right-hand corner post and the doors is identical, as are some of the marks on the right-hand door's window frame):



The chip in the paint at the bottom of the central divider would also suggest that this is the wooden box, rather than a fibreglass copy of AWJ-1.  Interesting to see that it's been retired from filming for the forseeable future.

So, for those wishing to get some extremely up-close reference photos, and maybe even some sneaky measurements... Pop on over to Madame Tussaud's in Blackpool.

[fivefingeredstyre]

That's interesting. I'm in Blackpool next week for a day, I may just take a look...