I've got a lead on someone who owns a segment who's willing to let me take a look at it, I'm allowed to take my notes around there to compare, but as usual, they're paranoid about it being replicated.

That aside, at the moment I'm unsure as to which bit this person has, so it could all end being a pointless exercise, other than to confirm the over all size of the thing and the core diameter.  I'll keep anyone who's interested updated on how this unfolds.

Those layouts for the first and... fourth segments were rather confusing to look at so I've made a in the style of the card model, it should print out the same size and orientation as the card model first piece so you can just slot it straight in. I'll get on to the other piece as soon as I can.

And if you have any trouble with it let me know so I can make any necessary changes.

Hang on I just realised its back to front, tomorrow I'll fix it, and maybe when I reload it it'll be the low res version for the hard of downloading.

I found an Star Wars Lightsaber LED torch/flashlight at Radioshack this weekend that might work the short illuminated tube in the Tracer. It has a blink, on, and off modes. Too bad they didn't have the purple Mace Windu version.

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Quote from: exilea board=dalek thread=1202354306 post=1203972419I found an Star Wars Lightsaber LED torch/flashlight at Radioshack this weekend that might work the short illuminated tube in the Tracer. It has a blink, on, and off modes. Too bad they didn't have the purple Mace Windu version.

I have something similar, an orange fibre optic torch/wand using three 1.5 volt batteries with blink, fast blink, on and off functions all controlled by a single button. I don't know how much it cost or even where I'd get another one but once you have the circuit it would probably be relatively simple to change the led (maybe?). I'd shop around anything star warsy will probably be more expensive than not.

Ok this is the segment not seen on screen taking the place of either one or four. I've labelled it the mystery segment due to the difficulty of assigning it a numerical designation in the order of the story plus the fact that it was never seen on screen except as part of the assembled key lends it that air of mystery over the other segments and that 'two slash four segment' is a bit of a mouthful.As to the accuracy of this piece the outer surface is based on images of the assembled key prop in both the final story of the season and in the image purple posted earlier, the inner surface of the segment, relative to the assembled cube, is based on our knowledge of the other segments so if they are accurate so is this and vice versa. The 5th segment is definitely right as the 2nd/4th, 3rd and 6th seem to be and I'm confident about the revised 1st segment so hopefully this should all be very close to the original ( I won't give percentages this time). Please note that these are oriented to the card model not the original so flip the image horizontally or use the back of the paper to correct also if you plan to make all 8 segments you may want to use different coloured card for the new revised segments to prevent confusion. I don't suppose there's any chance of some karma?

I'd just like to point out that if my posts ever sound long winded or smug or don't make much sense it's because I'm dysgraphic and it takes a little more effort to get my thoughts out in a coherent way, this sometimes makes me sound a bit too posh.

Whow much much larger try this:
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apparently imageshack only has one resolution setting.

I found this in "Doctor Who the seventies" which just goes to show what happens when you look at the petty pictures and ignore the words.

QuoteThe Key to Time itself consisted of six solid pieces of clear perspex which could be assembled to form a complete cube. A cylindrical hole ran through the centre of the cube to accommodate the tracer de¬vice which the Doctor and Romana were given to track down the segments. A number of different versions of the prop were made, and a number of duplicates of each individual segment, to allow for the possibility of some going astray during the course of production.

I've also started making plans of the tracer, as with any first generation plan this is speculative and its much easier for someone else to come along and correct it than for me to get everything right the first time but that's part of the game. As you can see it's not fully detailed yet but most of the basics are in place and it should at least be to scale. I should also point out that due to the fragility of the prop several replacments had to be made and not all were identical for example this plan shows the end tip seen in "the ribos operation" which appears to be a part of a medical or chemical apparatus in later stories the tip of the plastic tube was simply milled to achieve the same effect (which is good for us because they probably don't exist any more).
[noIMG]http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5378/tracer01am6.jpg[/img]
here's a closer look at that rubber tube adapter or whatever it is in case any one can identify it.
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[noIMG]http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8637/tip01kn7.th.jpg[/img][noIMG]http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6606/tip02qy8.th.jpg[/img]

It's been bugging me for a while now what this is, now thanks to these pictures, it dawned on me.

It's the tip of the plunger from a syringe!  I'm looking at one right now - been using one to dispense medicine into a reluctant daughter.  The only difference between the one I have and the one used in the prop is that mine is blue and it only has the single "rib" at the end, rather than three and it being clear.  It has everything else though, including the four "fins" that run down the inner shaft.

They're not rubber at all, rather a soft(ish) plastic.

By the way, I rang my friend to ask about his rapid prototyping machine... bad news, he sold up the business just before Christmas!  Just proves that I should stay in touch with people on a regular basis.

Teletran, got another idea though.  Seeing as you have the 3D drawing abilities - could you draw all six segments up as a net (the right way around) - I could then assemble them in card and take the whole thing around to another contact and see if they can help us out in the manufacture?  The only thing I'd say now is that the two new segments you drew, no matter what I do, print out larger than each other and also much larger than Brigitte's originals.  Just an idea, but worth a shot.

Going back to the tracer, the main handle is the bottom of a 1970's table leg... we had the same tables when I was at school... the white end piece (which also comes in black) is the vinyl stopper foot.

Keep me posted on your inquiries, Purple. Exchange rate or no, I'm very interested in this project!

If you follow these links the images should come out the right size if not I'll have to send you a pdf.
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flatpackfour03qa8.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kttflatpack01csb6.jpg

the edges of the cube should be 3" to a side

Hi,
I don't know if it will help you guys, but I Think that I've got a photo of a completed key prop from a Panopticon back in '94, though I'm not 100% on this   :-/

I'll see if I can dig it out if it'll be any help? I may be mistaken, but I think the segments themselves had become quite yellow with age.

I'll have a look and try and get this scanned in.

Gaz 

3" you say?  That explains it, Brigitte's PDF plans print out at 2^3/4" this end.  Hmm, not sure what to do about that then.

If you have an image editor you can scale them manually