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Started by absolutely, Jul 26, 2019, 08:10 pm

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absolutely

Jul 26, 2019, 08:10 pm Last Edit: Jul 30, 2019, 10:53 am by absolutely
Album: https://imgur.com/a/8eFnJUi
I've made this model free here for Roblox users: https://www.roblox.com/library/3540014531/Arwel-Wyn-Police-Box

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I hardly ever posted here so this being my last post isn't super significant, but I figured I'd write this out anyway to express my gratitude to the people who run this site and frequent it every day.

My good friend spoke to me about some things, and I guess you could say I've had a change of heart. Sorry if I alarmed anyone. I will continue to post and browse here regularly. I will keep the post below because I would still like to express my gratitude.

I started coming here when I was 13, in 2011. My friend had found it by Googling images of a police box sign to use for our terrible models.

When I finally made an account in 2014, I posted some of the things I made in Studio and was met with, well, practically no reception whatsoever. It told me that the things I thought I was so good at making and was so sure were terrific were actually, compared to everything else that was posted here, meant absolutely nothing, and looked like garbage. It really did a number on me, but I kept going anyway thinking I could impress someone here. I never did, and probably never will.

That taught me a valuable lesson that always stuck with me, in that it doesn't matter if I think something I made is good. It matters if I think it's worth sharing. Obviously no matter how good or bad you are, you should always try to get better at doing whatever it is you want to be good at, but only doing this for the praise of others will eventually just leave you empty. I got better. I stopped using Roblox for a long time, and learned Blender. It's different, it's uncomfortable, and I still fumble around with it, but I still feel like I'm reaching higher than before, and always feel good about what I do.

I feel partially responsible for the Roblox content on this site, as I blabbed on about it to tons of people at the time, but I am glad that while those entries may not get many responses (which can be a good thing), the people who run this site just went with it and opened up a whole new section just for them (or to contain them  ;) )

What I'm getting at is, I just want to say thanks. It's probably weird that I'm even saying all this, but I figured that before I start this new big part of my life, I should at least say thanks to the people who, mostly inadvertently, taught me a lot of things that I do wind up using a lot, like about carpentry, paint, 3D modelling, and so on. It means a ton. So thanks.

Rassilons Rod

In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

No More

There's an ideal form of words that sadly I'm not able to capture.

There's so much stuff posted on here that I could never do - whether in virtual builds (I've done a tiny bit of CAD for 3D printing, and tried working on a TYJ in CAD at one stage, but not to my own satisfaction let alone that I thought would fire other people up) or on physical builds, large or small.  Usually I lurk rather than post - I read the site every day (although I'm sure on my phone I miss some stuff that doesn't show up on the default Home screen) but hardly ever post because I don't feel competent to make a meaningful comment on most of the stuff that the members here post, including you.  Whether it's Roblox or Blender or cardboard or wood or concrete blocks, there's stuff that I not just haven't done but I know I couldn't do as well as, and tend to simply not comment.  I'm kind of a perfectionist and I just know any build I try doing, virtual or physical, won't be good enough for me and I only see the flaws in my own work and wouldn't generally dare put anything up for public inspection - or more often, wouldn't start it because I know it wouldn't get to where I'd like it to be.
People like you who do get past that and do builds, on the computer with skills I haven't learned and maybe couldn't master, or physically with skills I already know I lack  :) and go on to share them as well, are what makes this site and this community.  Whether or not the quiet lurkers like me feel able to pop our heads above the parapet and comment or praise things we see that we haven't matched ourselves or know that we couldn't.

Thanks for the Arwel Jones box (virtual model) shots.

absolutely

Quote from: No More on Jul 26, 2019, 09:29 pm
 I'm kind of a perfectionist and I just know any build I try doing, virtual or physical, won't be good enough for me and I only see the flaws in my own work and wouldn't generally dare put anything up for public inspection - or more often, wouldn't start it because I know it wouldn't get to where I'd like it to be.


I feel the same way about a lot of things other than models. Honestly the best way I've found to get past that, is to do something with the intention of receiving feedback and criticism.

For models I would show my friends "drafts" of a model, basically telling them the model is unfinished and that I was just looking to see what they think so far and what could be added, when in reality the model I'd show them was actually what I thought was finished enough.

It's important to realize that most of the time you are never ever going to do something amazing or even good on your first attempt. The only way to improve is to take an L and learn from the criticism you got before. It takes time to remember this and it's not easy at all, but it's something I struggled with before as well, and this is about the best way I found of describing what I did to get out of it.

davidnagel

Hey mate, I imagine your post will disappear amongst everything else that happens but I'm sorry to hear you didn't get the reception you were expecting. I don't go into my opinions about the community here as it'll only ruffle feathers, but really every submission deserves attention - even if its a like - and its a pity you didn't receive that.

Your work has come in waves and bounds and I am personally thankful to you for allowing us to see your progress.

Many thanks for sharing it here and I hope you come back time to time to check up on us. I hope your work stays here :)
Kind Regards,

David

www.spiffinglyniceguy.co.uk

kutan66

Initially, people should make things because they want to and because they enjoy doing so.    And then post images of what you've done if you want to.   Others can of course then use other people's images as reference for their own projects.
Don't make and post things just to get 'likes', because most people don't do 'likes', or only do when an urge appears.

A lot of people only look at images too, and don't read anything longer than a sentence.

Your images look good to me.  I wish I could do that, but I can't - and I'm not going to start trying even if I could find time to do so!

Unlike the Sonic Screwdriver, I'm just going to continue doing wood!

absolutely

Quote from: davidnagel on Jul 27, 2019, 06:12 am
Hey mate, I imagine your post will disappear amongst everything else that happens but I'm sorry to hear you didn't get the reception you were expecting. I don't go into my opinions about the community here as it'll only ruffle feathers, but really every submission deserves attention - even if its a like - and its a pity you didn't receive that.

Your work has come in waves and bounds and I am personally thankful to you for allowing us to see your progress.

Many thanks for sharing it here and I hope you come back time to time to check up on us. I hope your work stays here :)


Well that's just the thing - I'm glad I didn't get any attention. It taught me a really valuable lesson and gave me a good sense of objectivity. That's part of what I'm most thankful for. Obviously not everyone takes it like that but I definitely am better for it. Thank you for your kind words.

ChameleonCircuit

Jul 28, 2019, 07:59 am #7 Last Edit: Jul 28, 2019, 07:59 am by TheEccleston
Never really got to talk to you properly, on ROBLOX and in general. But you've always been one of the few builders I looked up to. I'm glad to hear you're moving on, everybody needs something to do with themselves after the last thing gets boring.

I hope to see you again in the future, even if it be on a completely different website. Thank you for being a part of the community.
"Physician, heal thyself..."
-Paul McGann, Night of The Doctor.