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Started by dr hue, May 30, 2019, 10:16 pm

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dr hue

May 30, 2019, 10:16 pm Last Edit: May 30, 2019, 10:18 pm by dr hue
Went down to Crossness Sewage Treatment Works today after being given authorization.

Had to wear full PPE gear: steel cap boots, hard hat, High Viz Jacket, protective gloves and googles
which made taking photos somewhat awkward!
There are 4 Mk5 boxes still standing (just).

The electrics inside were strange. Will upload more photos when I get a mo.

Below is Bexley's Listed status:

Locally Listed Buildings

Locally listed buildings and structures in the London Borough of Bexley, of architectural or historic interest

Name or descriptive detail: 4 concrete 'police' type boxes

Year of Entry: 2011

index no. 442

Last revised October 2018

This picture is 3D Stereo cross-eyed format ( see Barnet Box for details ).



That's marvellous! (speaking as someone who has been able to freeview for decades). You can really make out the depth of the box and the space where the door was.  If only we could get you a working time machine and send you back to London in the 1950s.  :D

Have you ever considered taking a trip to Glasgow?

dr hue

Just going through my Crossness images. Still haven't viewed them all yet ( several hundred )  but just came across this!


taken in the "North" box.

Was just taking general shots of the electrical fixings.

But what is that on top of the box ??

I never noticed it when taking the picture !


Davros Skaro

Looks like a little toy skull. weird!



I'm going to say it's an optical illusion.  It does indeed look like a little skull, but I think it is just a rubber "boot" over that cable that is going into the box--kind of like the end of a spark plug wire.  Time and entropy have deteriorated and deformed its original shape. 
"My dear Litefoot, I've got a lantern and a pair of waders, and possibly the most fearsome piece of hand artillery in all England. What could possibly go wrong?"
-The Doctor.


It looks like the pvc cable gland shroud to me.

That is a really interesting picture. Lots of age and decay...

Thanks for sharing these :)

Davros Skaro

Just had a second look & there is a cable coming out of it, soooo ... it is a cable gland shroud deteriorated. I didn't notice the cable before, (that's what happens when I look at things first thing in the morning).


dr hue

Jun 03, 2019, 07:21 pm #8 Last Edit: Jun 03, 2019, 07:27 pm by dr hue
Quote from: starcross on Dec 05, 2018, 03:32 pm

Did anything every happen with the four Boxes at Crossness?
I remember that we wanted to get out there to get newer pictures of them all but nothing ever happened as far as I recall.

Took these last Thursday 30th May with 1 Metre Rule next to Box


None of the four remaining boxes has a door anymore. They are all in a very fragile state. From what I can make out, they are no longer used for anything.

Apparently the Bexley Council listing means that they are a planning consideration, but there isn't a legal obligation as with Heritage England listed structures.

Wondering what is the best way to preserve these.

Anyone got any ideas ?  Should they be covered ?



So no opening for a phone door on these ones then. 


I wonder if Ward Westwater knows of the existence of these boxes?



Was there some kind of panel attached to the front wall at some point?
"Ashes and diamonds; foe and friend - we were all equal in the end."

dr hue

All the other boxes seem to have the same 'panel' marks but I can't see what was fixed into those holes.

There are no telephone doors but all boxes have a Field/Marine Type Telephone Hood fixed to the sides.

These look like they were bolted on at a much later date.


ward westwater

Quote from: Dalekoracle on Jun 03, 2019, 11:16 pmI wonder if Ward Westwater knows of the existence of these boxes?
The ownership of these boxes were transferred to us by Thames Water several years ago but the logistics of moving them is an issue.


Quote from: ward westwater on Aug 22, 2020, 11:49 pmThe ownership of these boxes were transferred to us by Thames Water several years ago, but the logistics of moving them is an issue.

Well its nice to know they are at least a step closer to preservation.

What sort of stars would need to align to get them removed from the site?

I work at some hazardous sites myself, so I can imagine getting a crane and operator in there to lift them out on a flatbed might prove tricky to arrange?
Or is it a money thing, IF its just money I'm sure we could crowd source a rescue fund with a fundraiser of some sort.

This is what the historical arm of this website is all about!
What do you need to make it happen Ward?