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Started by markofrani, Dec 01, 2007, 05:13 pm

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markofrani

Dec 01, 2007, 05:13 pm Last Edit: Oct 22, 2012, 03:27 pm by Scarfwearer
Does anyone know when the Ankh door key and lock first appeared on the Brachacki prop?
The earliest pic I've found was from the last Pertwee story 'Planet Of The Spiders'.

spiders.jpg

Also on looking closer at some stills from 'Robot' it looks like the lock slot to take this key was already in place - the yale lock below has been painted over...
robot2.jpg
robot1.jpg
...but without the silver cover plate when seen in the 'Android Invasion'
android.jpg

Rassilons Rod

Mar 26, 2008, 06:38 am #1 Last Edit: Jan 24, 2010, 10:11 am by scarfwearer
Quote from: exilea board=newbury thread=1196529224 post=1206465476I'm sure they could adjust the resistance of the latch to accommodate a pewter wafer key  ???.


Well... I dunno... just look how thin the part is that sticks through the gap of the door...

I reckon Purp is right, they didn't bother... no need really!

-Marc
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DoctorWho8

Dec 02, 2007, 01:11 am #2 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:34 am by scarfwearer
Yeah, they added the "slit" at the end the Pertwee's season.  And yes, they added the silver face in Android Invasion after the prop was repainted.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

markofrani

Dec 02, 2007, 02:16 pm #3 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:35 am by scarfwearer
thanks for the info!

jona

Dec 05, 2007, 01:18 pm #4 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:35 am by scarfwearer
The key and lock were in existence at least at the start of Pertwee's last season. I can't find a clear picture of the lock slot but here are a couple of screen caps of him opening the TARDIS in Part 1 of Time Warrior:

TWKey.jpg

The position of his hand shows that the lock slot was there, even if it's not visible.

jona

DoctorWho8

Dec 05, 2007, 04:43 pm #5 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:35 am by scarfwearer
I stand corrected.  They added it at the beginning of Jon Pertwee's last season.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

handofomega

Dec 05, 2007, 11:56 pm #6 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:35 am by scarfwearer
Although nothing to do with the Brachacki prop, I do like the way that the Yale lock and key slot idea was combined for the 96 TV movie.  Best of both worlds you might say.

aarontimelord

Mar 25, 2008, 06:27 am #7 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:36 am by scarfwearer
Just a question,
was it an actual lock? was it a real functioning lock?
I mean, would you put this "Ankh" key in the "slot", turn it and the door would open? Or was it just for looks?
???
Aaron

willytron

Mar 25, 2008, 06:32 am #8 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:36 am by scarfwearer
if it was a lock, it wouldn't be much good (in real life)  You could open it with a butter knife.  As for the actual Brachacki prop, I don't know.

DoctorWho8

Mar 25, 2008, 12:29 pm #9 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:36 am by scarfwearer
They managed to make a custom lock for the 1996 TV Movie.  There's some closeup caps of it somewhere.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

Rassilons Rod

Mar 25, 2008, 01:12 pm #10 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:36 am by scarfwearer
I've understood that a key made of pewter (as the replicas are) would be useless in a lock like that, because the torque of turning it in the lock would just bend it out of shape...

But in principle, a normal lock mechanism would work, you would just need to attach some sort of receptacle for the spade to fit into to turn the latch.

Mr Blancmonge... do you know what the original key(s) was/were made of?

-Marc
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

purpleblancmange

Mar 25, 2008, 01:19 pm #11 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:37 am by scarfwearer
I know the original was pretty soft and later replicas of this was made an an equally soft metal, so I guess it really was something like pewter.  As to Aaron's question, no it wasn't a real lock on the BBC prop - just a slot, but the TVM did have what appeared to be some form of movement - whether this was a lock is debatable.

Rassilons Rod

Mar 25, 2008, 02:29 pm #12 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:37 am by scarfwearer
Quote from: purpleblancmange board=newbury thread=1196529224 post=1206451161I know the original was pretty soft and later replicas of this was made an an equally soft metal, so I guess it really was something like pewter.  As to Aaron's question, no it wasn't a real lock on the BBC prop - just a slot, but the TVM did have what appeared to be some form of movement - whether this was a lock is debatable.


Well that all tallies then. Just a hole, a real lock would have totally buggered a pewter key...

-Marc
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

exilea

Mar 25, 2008, 02:46 pm #13 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:37 am by scarfwearer
Quote from: rassilonsrod board=newbury thread=1196529224 post=1206455374

Well that all tallies then. Just a hole, a real lock would have totally buggered a pewter key...

-Marc


I used to have one of those pewter replicas. I'm fairly confident they would be able to hold up to turning a knob-like mechanism. I imagine the TVM lock was more or less designed like a doorknob, but had a slot for the key instead of the knob pin. So yeah, it could be opened with a butter knife in real life if need be  :)
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Rassilons Rod

Mar 25, 2008, 04:17 pm #14 Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:37 am by scarfwearer
My pewter key has been bent by just living in my wallet.

Door latch mechanisms are pretty tough mechanisms... ever tried turning one with your fingers?

-Marc
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.