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Scarfwearer's "Where will you put it?" Tardis

Started by Scarfwearer, May 06, 2018, 06:54 pm

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tony farrell

Lovely build Crispin - it's nice to see a Newbery version for a change. And how nice to see that you have the correct number of steps above the side panels....

Mrs Scarfwearer must be a very tolerant lady to have all these Tardis variants about the place!

On the subject of variants, do you plan to have inter-changeable roofs (original and 'TY-J' types) and interchangeable post caps (original and simplified variants) as per your Brachacki Box?

T

Volpone

Obviously, with 3 TARDISes, you need at least 2 adjoining rooms with a through door.  Then you can put a TARDIS outside the first room, set up your control room in the room, put a second TARDIS inside, against the other door, and build another control room in the adjoining room and put the last TARDIS inside that. 

Tell your wife there's no need to thank me. 
"My dear Litefoot, I've got a lantern and a pair of waders, and possibly the most fearsome piece of hand artillery in all England. What could possibly go wrong?"
-The Doctor.

karsthotep

A tardis inside a tardis.....do you know how dangerous that is?  What is wrong with you!!!!!!!
I want notes, lists and answers by the time I finish this here Juicy-a-Box! WARNING: I am Thirst-ay! And it is Fruit Punch! And it is Delicious!"

Scarfwearer

Quote from: Tony Farrell on May 20, 2018, 11:39 pm
Mrs Scarfwearer must be a very tolerant lady to have all these Tardis variants about the place!


Well I married a SF fan, so she's pretty understanding...

Quote from: Tony Farrell on May 20, 2018, 11:39 pmOn the subject of variants, do you plan to have inter-changeable roofs (original and 'TY-J' types) and interchangeable post caps (original and simplified variants) as per your Brachacki Box?


Oh yes, definitely. There'll be interchangeable sign box fascias as well, as they also changed in those last few stories. Mine will have removable back doors with the lock in the other position that I can mount on the front (or just spin the box around).
I'm not sure whether I'll get a black curtain for the back. :)

Quote from: Volpone on May 20, 2018, 11:45 pm
Obviously, with 3 TARDISes, you need at least 2 adjoining rooms with a through door.  Then you can put a TARDIS outside the first room, set up your control room in the room, put a second TARDIS inside, against the other door, and build another control room in the adjoining room and put the last TARDIS inside that. 

Tell your wife there's no need to thank me.


That's a very tempting idea... but I don't think I would get away with it..  :-\

Actually she had another idea: she figured if I have the Newbery in the console room, then it could be against the wall and another exterior door. Then it can open to the actual outside. So a Tardis within a Tardis that's much, MUCH bigger on the inside...

Quote from: karsthotep on May 21, 2018, 12:50 am
A tardis inside a tardis.....do you know how dangerous that is?  What is wrong with you!!!!!!!


Well right! There's a serious danger I might have to end up building an infinite number of Tardises... :o

karsthotep

You need to put your Newberry console inside the Newberry TARDIS, while also inside your console room. 
I want notes, lists and answers by the time I finish this here Juicy-a-Box! WARNING: I am Thirst-ay! And it is Fruit Punch! And it is Delicious!"

Angelus Lupus

May 21, 2018, 01:33 pm #35 Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 01:33 pm by Angelus Lupus
Quote from: Scarfwearer on May 21, 2018, 08:43 am
Actually she had another idea: she figured if I have the Newbery in the console room, then it could be against the wall and another exterior door. Then it can open to the actual outside. So a Tardis within a Tardis that's much, MUCH bigger on the inside...


I like the way Mrs S. thinks!
A mixed-up non-conformist, trying to fit in.

Scarfwearer

May 23, 2018, 08:51 pm #36 Last Edit: May 23, 2018, 09:03 pm by Scarfwearer
Well it needs a roof, so here's the earlier roof that the box had for most of its life. I'm posting this a bit late.

roof1-parts.jpg
I started by cutting a 4 foot square of 1/4 inch plywood, and cutting a 2x4 stud timber into four pieces (lengthways and across the middle). After mitring the corners, I made diagonals to meet the box in the middle. The outer corners were mitred on the outside. The inner corners were mitred the other way on the table saw to make corners for the box. I did the long roof slope on the diagonals last, because otherwise it's hard to position the piece against the fence on the table saw when cutting the notch mitres.

roof1-frame.jpg
Here it is with the frame assembled. Because this roof is so flat I didn't bother to put any slight bevel on any of the frame parts. I probably won't get away with that for the later roof.
I did leave a gap under the box for the rotating lock plate. I'm following the lift-through design I used last time, so have saved a lot of time by planning ahead for this.

roof1-offer.jpg
You can do lots of careful measuring of parts and angles to do the trapezoidal roof slopes, or you can just do what I do: build the frame slightly wonky and then cut the trapezoids to fit what you've built.

roof1-markup.jpg
Having cut the ply to the right width (by measuring from the centre box to the outer edge) I just mark where the ply meets the box corners, and cut the plywood to fit.

roof1-panels-cut.jpg
Here are the four trapezoids laid in position - all very slightly different sizes...

roof1-complete.jpg
And here they are nailed in position with a brad nailer. It may not be perfectly square, but there are no gaps.


That took a morning...


Later I built the box for the lamp.

lampbase-parts.jpg
Here are the parts that I beveled on the table saw.

lampbase-box.jpg
Here's the box going together with the nail gun.

lampbase-bottom.jpg
Here's the rotating plate that will support it in the base of the roof, attached with an M6 bolt and locking nut. The 8 holes are just finger holes to make it easy to turn above my head.

And here it is assembled.

roof1-stack34.jpg
I borrowed the fresnel and lamp cap from my first build, which doesn't fit under the kitchen ceiling. I'll need to make a better-matching lamp cap, as that one was a custom design. Currently it's just balanced there.

roof1-stack34-low.jpg
I haven't really finished the area above the sign boxes, let alone the post caps.

TrixieTiger1995

This looks beautiful! The Newbery is one of my favourite TARDISes alongside the Brachackis. Great work!
TrixieTiger1995, the infrequent builder and frequent forumer.

Scarfwearer

Well thank-you!
I think the different models all have their charms, though I think the Newbery looked better over time rather than worse... the later, taller roof seemed like a definite improvement to me, and one I will be getting to... :)

fivefingeredstyre

Quick question... When did the roof get taller?

(Do you mean the total change for the Logopolis refit, or did it change before that?)

Scarfwearer

I think just the three stories where it was brought out of storage during the Yardley-Jones years, and they altered the roof to resemble it: Logopolis, Castrovalva and Black Orchid. So it had the taller roof for at least a year after its 4 season regular reign, even though it wasn't seen very often.

Volpone

The roof really is what curses the Newberry.  I suppose it is more practical for shooting because you can more easily have the TARDIS materialize in spaceships, etc, without needing a 9-10' ceiling, but it gives it such a chopped off feel--even for someone who didn't grow up around real Met boxes. 
"My dear Litefoot, I've got a lantern and a pair of waders, and possibly the most fearsome piece of hand artillery in all England. What could possibly go wrong?"
-The Doctor.

Scarfwearer

Presumably Tom Yardley-Jones would have agreed: the Newbery roof had a surprisingly similar outline to the Brachacki Altered, which it replaced - in fact it could almost have been the same roof... :o (I don't think it was, though :)), but the later roof was a return to a better proportion.

Scarfwearer

May 26, 2018, 04:50 pm #43 Last Edit: May 26, 2018, 04:53 pm by Scarfwearer
So here's the later roof:

It's a bit more complicated because it has an extra stack, and a steeper pitch.

roof2-parts.jpg
The lamp frame in the middle is in two parts to allow the lock plate to turn at the correct height.

roof2-frame-test.jpg
Here's how it goes together. The diagonals have compound mitres and a slope. If I did this again I might have them level and have the upper part of the roof supported only by the lamp frame. It would have been much easier to cut that way. Or I could have used 2x6 timber and not had a gap. :\ Put that one down to lack of planning.

So here it is all assembled:
roof2-assembled.jpg

I forgot to take a picture of the lower step during assembly.


Meanwhile in the Tardis...

roof2-chg-before.jpg
First I took down the lamp base from underneath.

roof2-chg-inverted.jpg
Then I flipped over the earlier roof, so it hangs downwards. This is how it is stored when the later roof is in place.

roof2-chg-first-step.jpg
The first step of the later roof sits on top of it. It has support bars at the front and back that the second step sits on, or when it's being stored upside down, the second step hangs from.

roof2-chg-second-step.jpg
The second step sits just inside the first step frame on the support bars.

roof2-chg-two.jpg
The lamp base sits on the upper roof support after being lifted through the stored roof.

roof2-chg-lamp.jpg
And locks into place the same way.


roof2-chg-done.jpg
here it is all assembled.

roof2-chg-front.jpg
From the front.

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I like it better than the flatter roof. :)

galacticprobe

May 27, 2018, 04:10 am #44 Last Edit: May 27, 2018, 04:12 am by galacticprobe
Wow! :o Not only is this another great build, but another transformable TARDIS build? (You do go all out to capture the details, I'll say that!) And while I've never been fond of the Newbery I have to admit you make this TARDIS look more beautiful than the original, and the blue paint hasn't even gone on yet!

(And since this Old Girl does transform, maybe this topic should be called Scarfwearer's "Where will you put it?" Transformable Newbery Tardis? :D)

Once again you've put my idea of having just interchangeable windows and phone panels to shame. :P ;)

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"