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Started by TG, Jul 04, 2005, 04:08 pm

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dematerialiser

Oct 13, 2005, 03:42 pm #75 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:43 pm by scarfwearer
Quote from: meantimebob board=build thread=1120493335 post=1129212710
So long as the person making yours isn't better known for building daleks then I think you'll be ok.


Phew! No - the guy I'm using is better known for building boats, so I'm expecting it to be *very* weatherproof   :P

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As for weathering, it hasn't changed since it was put outside, about 6 years ago. I wondered about texturing as well but found that I was more than happy with giving it a good dirty down with a paint effect instead. I do't like flat paint jobs, I like the TARDIS to look as though its been somewhere, if you know what I mean.

And yes, its a shed, but next year I want to put a row of roundels up one interior wall.


Yes - I do like the idea of an artistic paint job to make it look well-travelled; My job on the build is all the arty bits (paint, signage, glass etc) so I'm really looking forward to it.  :)

I like the roundels idea - I'm thinking of trying to follow Crispin's example and forming my own (..eventually. need a tardis to put them in first.. ! :D)

Chris



meantimebob

Oct 13, 2005, 04:32 pm #76 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:43 pm by scarfwearer
My TARDIS was built from individual door panels screwed together (there's a lot of wood on the inside) then screwed to the four corner posts onto which the roof section was attached. It's not going anywhere so it's bolted to fence posts that are attached to a concrete base and is incredibly sturdy.

Luckily I've got access to a fibreglass roundel pulled from one of the originals so I'll mould that and cast a few in fibreglass for my needs.

Can't wait to see Dematerialiser's version! How's it coming along?

Scarfwearer

Oct 13, 2005, 05:02 pm #77 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:43 pm by scarfwearer
That's a lovely looking box - nice setting too!
Casting the whole window and frame sounds like a good idea - it must save a lot of time, though I imagine a little fiddly to paint. Definitely an idea for V2 of the TARDIS Manual, eh, Glen?

How are the windows made opaque? Is there a frosted back mount or something?

Crispin

meantimebob

Oct 13, 2005, 05:29 pm #78 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:43 pm by scarfwearer
The windows are opaque because ordinary gel coat was used, followed by a few layers of fibreglass tissue in laminating resin. Personally I prefer the mystery of having opaque windows with just a glow behind them. As for being fiddly to paint, its no more fiddly than painting normal windows.

dematerialiser

Oct 14, 2005, 09:11 am #79 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:44 pm by scarfwearer
QuoteCan't wait to see Dematerialiser's version! How's it coming along?


Hi Meantime,

I know that work has started, and I'm due to take photo's of each stage of the build (and discuss build details as we go) as soon as each part is ready, but so far only the base is underway (it'll have a trapdoor built into it to house some electrics.).

At the moment I'm just waiting for a phone call and then I'll be heading off with my camera and blueprints :D
When there's something to see I'll post some photos to the group. Probably start doing some paint experiments after that as well.

All the best with the completion of your Tardis, Meantime, - it looks great.

cheers
Chris



mantamatt

Oct 25, 2005, 11:42 pm #80 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:44 pm by scarfwearer
Hi I thought I'd post a piccie of how the glass I made up looks in a frame

This time I used window putty and small nails to pin each pane in place. Previously I used glue to fix the glass to the back of the frame and panes kept falling out. So this time I made the glass exactly the right size for the pane so it sits inside the frame properly...

Obviously it all needs painting up, bit of a mess at the moment...on the whole I am happy with how it's come out..

The 6th pane is not present.  I think to do another mould this time for an untextured pane and  use some blue dye to colour it correctly.

DCP01162.jpg


Sorvan

Nov 27, 2006, 04:27 pm #81 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:45 pm by scarfwearer
Look what I found on the website of a New Zealand glass manufacturer:
hammered.jpg
I'm so happy, I think I'm gonna cry.

(Many thanks to Simon for posting the pics of his windows)

Colin

TG

Mar 03, 2009, 10:54 am #82 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:45 pm by scarfwearer
Yay! Scarfwearer found ye olde pebbled glass thread, Thank you Crispin  :D

Look at this, a shocking waste of perfectly good pebbled glass  :o ;)
Pebbledwindow.jpg

I wonder if I could try to cast the pebbledy bit without taking it apart?
TG

Darksyde

Mar 06, 2009, 06:26 am #83 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:45 pm by scarfwearer
You could, would be a bit tricky process though. Use clay or a brush on mold matieral to make a very spacific square or repeatable shape. Use that mold to make a small casting. Then use that casting to make a texuted clay panel the size you need. Cast that up. Then make one more mold of that and you can make the rest of your panels.

pod

Mar 27, 2009, 01:45 pm #84 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:53 pm by scarfwearer
Quote from: timegirl board=build thread=111 post=19786 time=1236077656Yay! Scarfwearer found ye olde pebbled glass thread, Thank you Crispin  :D

Look at this, a shocking waste of perfectly good pebbled glass  :o ;)
Pebbledwindow.jpg

I wonder if I could try to cast the pebbledy bit without taking it apart?

TG

I recently found an old door in an antique centre with a leadlight window in it very similar to this one, which contained pebbled glass which was very similar to, but more accurate than, another old door I had found previously which had a pane of pebbled glass in it ... anyway, I bought the door (at an extortionate price), then, much to the horror of the proprietors of the antique centre, cut it in two with my circular saw so I could fit it in my car, then carefully removed first the leadlight window, then the pebbled panes.
I took the precious resulting panes to my local glazier who cut it to size for me (only enough for 8 panes), then I removed the existing panes and installed the beautiful new ones.
Mrs Pod was both horrified and perplexed ... horrified that I could have dismembered such a beautiful old leadlight window like that, and perplexed because she cannot tell the difference between the panes I took out and the panes I put in.
But I can.  ;)

pod

Mar 27, 2009, 01:48 pm #85 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:54 pm by scarfwearer
Oh, and I forgot to mention, the leadlight had yellow/amber components like Time Girl's one ... and they were pebbled glass too! Yellow pebbled glass! That would have been awesome, though sadly there wasn't enough of it to do one pane, let alone sixteen.  :(

pod

Jul 10, 2009, 05:31 am #86 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2010, 11:54 pm by scarfwearer
I got my box of pebbled glass from the UK company the other day that Time Girl mentions above, and eleven of the panes were of the correct type, the rest were random close approximations, which didn't actually match. I emailed the guy at the glass place, and he said he had done his best from the old and reclaimed stock they had, but as the glass is so old and so long discontinued, it is virtually impossible to accurately match all sixteen. I believe him too, I've had this very problem for years now! But I can't fault the company for communication or customer service, and they really did do the best they could for me. So I re-glazed the sides and front of the box, with one pane at the rear of one side being a close approximation (nobody will ever know except me and any other TR2/TBF members who come and visit!). I'm undecided about what to do about the back wall, as it's nearly always going to be backed up against something ... I don't know if I want to put odd pebbled panes in there, or at least pebbled panes which don't match the rest, or whether to simply make all the panes on those windows frosted. Hmmm, quite the conundrum ...

pod

Hey,
Sorry to resurrect this seemingly long dead topic, but I had a pebbled glass-related experience today which may be of some relevance! I go into a lot of churches in my line of work, and I went into one today in Hawthorn, a suburb of Melbourne, and every single pane of glass in the entire place was yellow pebbled glass. The church was built in 1966, and a couple of panes here and there had been replaced with different variations of pebbled glass, and some, presumably more recently, had been replaced with yellow rippled variants. But I don't think I'd ever seen that much genuine pebbled glass in one place. And each pane was about the same shape, but a little bigger, than a TARDIS window pane. There were HUNDREDS of them! This stuff is SO RARE here, and here I was today, literally surrounded by acres of the stuff.
Ah well.
  :D

atomicgraph

You can find it still, the other day me and my wife were at an antique shop and they had like 10 old windows all filled with pebble glass they were asking $ 20 per window. I still need to get down there and pick a couple up

pod

I know it does turn up occasionally, I found a house around the corner which was being renovated and the old front door was full of the stuff. I spoke to the guy, and he let me bring the ute over and take the door when he was ready to get rid of it, so I have a bit of surplus stock now! But you try finding the stuff when you really need it. It's like rocking horse shoes. I'
d snaffle up those $20 windows quick smart atomicgraph if I were you!