Which are the most recent/accurate Yardley Jones plans?

Started by evil bob, Aug 25, 2017, 05:06 pm

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evil bob

Quote from: Volpone on Apr 18, 2019, 04:42 am
Hopefully someone will come along with a better answer, but off the top of my head I want to say the glass was 5-5.5" tall with everything proportional to that.  Alternately, you can poke around the reference section and probably find it.  It isn't organized in the most intuitive way, but the info's probably in there.  Somewhere.  If I get some time I'll see if I can find it. 


I completely agree, mainly because the glass "lens" I used was 5-5.5" tall.

Andy

Hello,

I am planning a 7th Doctor build, based on the Remembrance of the Daleks episode: Which of these plans should I be looking at? Also, are the measurements in millimetres? Sorry if that seems like a noddy question!

Cheers
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moonbeam

Hi Andy,

There are some excellent plans on here and a very detailed history of the Tom Yardley Jones boxes on here by Tony Farrell, so if you use the search you'll find everything thing you need (I've just done it and there still there) just search Tony Farrell and scroll down a bit and it's all there and it's a fascinating read.
As for where to start, when I did mine I started with the base first but if you look elsewhere on the site you'll see everyone's builds so that should give you a good few pointers. There's tons of great info in this place.

Happy building an get some pictures up for everyone to see.

Moonbeam.

moonbeam


Andy

Quote from: moonbeam on Feb 20, 2023, 06:28 pmHi Andy,

There are some excellent plans on here and a very detailed history of the Tom Yardley Jones boxes on here by Tony Farrell, so if you use the search you'll find everything thing you need (I've just done it and there still there) just search Tony Farrell and scroll down a bit and it's all there and it's a fascinating read.
As for where to start, when I did mine I started with the base first but if you look elsewhere on the site you'll see everyone's builds so that should give you a good few pointers. There's tons of great info in this place.

Happy building an get some pictures up for everyone to see.

Moonbeam.

I did find a thread on it, which had the original side by side with a 'new'(?) version. Does it matter version which I follow?

When I go through the build, I think I might try and make a step-by-step procedures document for future builders, because that's what I really need myself: an idiot's guide to building a TARDIS.
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Volpone

Quote from: Andy on Feb 23, 2023, 09:16 pm...When I go through the build, I think I might try and make a step-by-step procedures document for future builders, because that's what I really need myself: an idiot's guide to building a TARDIS.
I feel like something like that is out there somewhere.  A fair number of builders here say in their diaries "I used the .... as a starting point."  Does anyone know what I'm talking about or am I just imagining things? 
"You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alters their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit the views, which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."
-The Doctor,
"Face of Evil."

Andy

Quote from: Volpone on Feb 23, 2023, 09:20 pm
Quote from: Andy on Feb 23, 2023, 09:16 pm...When I go through the build, I think I might try and make a step-by-step procedures document for future builders, because that's what I really need myself: an idiot's guide to building a TARDIS.
I feel like something like that is out there somewhere.  A fair number of builders here say in their diaries "I used the .... as a starting point."  Does anyone know what I'm talking about or am I just imagining things? 

It would need to be like IKEA furniture: telling me what parts I need, how many of each, what paint etc. I'm an idiot. lol
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Rassilons Rod

Quote from: Andy on Feb 23, 2023, 09:24 pmIt would need to be like IKEA furniture: telling me what parts I need, how many of each, what paint etc. I'm an idiot. lol

Best I can do is this.

IKEA TARDIS 1.jpg

But their original version was best.... 😜

IKEA TARDIS 2.jpg
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

russellsuthern

I think on YouTube there's a "wood working for mere mortals" Tardis building tutorial.
I seem to remember that's one of the easiest ones to follow for a beginner....
🙂
Russell

Andy

TBF, once I can figure out what cuts of wood I need and how many of each, it probably won't be too tragic save for the lighting and f/x. I just need to get that bit done first. I can be a bit of a doofus, so I'd rather have everything in front of me in one go before starting so I can figure out what goes where and do problem solving as needed... I'm a natural born worrier, so doing things on the fly sets me on edge!
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Volpone

I won't go into the details of how I structured my build because I definitely would do some things differently today, but I'll mention the planning.  As I said, I simplified the 1963 design.  So I drew a scale...we'll call it a blueprint...drawing on graph paper.  Then I made a "cut list" of everything I'd need: 
5 sheets of thin plywood,
X number of 1x4s,
X number of 1x3s,
4 10' 4x4s,
...
A sheet of "crackle" fluorescent diffuser (for the "windows")
A "jelly jar" lamp glass (the $3.95 one Lowe's sells is WAAAAY too small for the signal lamp, as I would learn)
A gallon of blue paint,
Box of screws, hinges,
etc. 

I still got a lot of stuff wrong and had to go back for things I'd forgotten or underestimated, but it gave me a good start.   
"You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alters their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit the views, which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."
-The Doctor,
"Face of Evil."

Andy

Quote from: Volpone on Feb 25, 2023, 02:56 pmI won't go into the details of how I structured my build because I definitely would do some things differently today, but I'll mention the planning.  As I said, I simplified the 1963 design.  So I drew a scale...we'll call it a blueprint...drawing on graph paper.  Then I made a "cut list" of everything I'd need: 
5 sheets of thin plywood,
X number of 1x4s,
X number of 1x3s,
4 10' 4x4s,
...
A sheet of "crackle" fluorescent diffuser (for the "windows")
A "jelly jar" lamp glass (the $3.95 one Lowe's sells is WAAAAY too small for the signal lamp, as I would learn)
A gallon of blue paint,
Box of screws, hinges,
etc. 

I still got a lot of stuff wrong and had to go back for things I'd forgotten or underestimated, but it gave me a good start.   

Yeah, that's effectively what I need to do. I just find it very intimidating because I am not technically minded, and I am a little neuro-diverse, as we now say, so I find things like this really unsettling if it's not effectively all planned out for me! Which I know sucks because I always feel like I am trying to copy someone else's work; I'm not, I just get unnerved by anything outside my typical comfort zone and it literally makes my mind freeze up with anxiety.

I mean - I can cut the wood and screw it altogether, paint it etc. without issue... but my mind has immediately gone to things like: Well, how thick is the wood meant to be? How thick is the glass meant to be? How did people make the signs? How do the signs light up from inside? How do you make it light up when the door opens? How do you make the TARDIS make a dematerialisation noise? And so on until I end up so frustrated and anxious that it puts me off ever wanting to do anything!! :(
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Volpone

Quote from: Andy on Feb 25, 2023, 04:50 pm... Well, how thick is the wood meant to be? How thick is the glass meant to be? How did people make the signs? How do the signs light up from inside? How do you make it light up when the door opens? How do you make the TARDIS make a dematerialisation noise? And so on until I end up so frustrated and anxious that it puts me off ever wanting to do anything!! :(
Well you're in the right place.  Poke around build threads and you'll find the different ways people solved those things.  Most of the wood is nominal 1" thick on most builds.  The base, corner posts, and roof can be 2" (1.5" actual thickness).  The plywood can be 1/4" and works just fine.  If you're a caveman like me (or just want to do it the way the London police did with the actual boxes, you just hang a lightbulb inside.  Mine has a sensor so it comes on when the sun goes down.  Lights the top signs, the door sign, and the windows (all of which are open in the back).  It even lights the signal lamp on mine right now. 

For more sophisticated lighting (and dematerialization noises) have a look at some of the other builds by the more technical people. 
"You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alters their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit the views, which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."
-The Doctor,
"Face of Evil."

Andy

Quote from: Volpone on Feb 25, 2023, 08:03 pm
Quote from: Andy on Feb 25, 2023, 04:50 pm... Well, how thick is the wood meant to be? How thick is the glass meant to be? How did people make the signs? How do the signs light up from inside? How do you make it light up when the door opens? How do you make the TARDIS make a dematerialisation noise? And so on until I end up so frustrated and anxious that it puts me off ever wanting to do anything!! :(
Well you're in the right place.  Poke around build threads and you'll find the different ways people solved those things.  Most of the wood is nominal 1" thick on most builds.  The base, corner posts, and roof can be 2" (1.5" actual thickness).  The plywood can be 1/4" and works just fine.  If you're a caveman like me (or just want to do it the way the London police did with the actual boxes, you just hang a lightbulb inside.  Mine has a sensor so it comes on when the sun goes down.  Lights the top signs, the door sign, and the windows (all of which are open in the back).  It even lights the signal lamp on mine right now. 

For more sophisticated lighting (and dematerialization noises) have a look at some of the other builds by the more technical people. 

Yeah, I'm going to try and pull things together into a single document for my own reference - and then when I eventually get round to the build, include a complete 'ingredients' list at the start. I'll probably put together a step-by-step procedure for other future builders too... then anyone like me can just download that and go!
"My mom thinks I'm cool."
Proud owner of an Imperial Dalek!