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Nottingham Police Boxes

Started by lorisarvendu, Nov 26, 2008, 01:10 pm

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Mark

Nov 14, 2013, 04:30 pm #15 Last Edit: Nov 14, 2013, 06:53 pm by Mark
I was in the city center so got a modern day equivalent picture

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It does look as though the box is under Yates's canopy on the black & white picture but based on the colour pictures of the box it must be a depth of field thing.

Had an obligatory pint while doing this police box research, criminal not too!  ;D

Senseidale

Mark you beat me to it was going to get a snap and have beer at same time  ;D
Dale
"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't important"

Rassilons Rod

Is that the base of a sonic screwdriver in the foreground? :D
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
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Mark

Wish I had known Dale, could have met up, talked TARDIS, Doctor Who and drunk too much beer. Probably for the best we didn't as the missus was with me and I would have lost a regeneration.

Now you mention it, it does look a bit like the Baker sonic. Despite it's upside down appearance it has still managed to mess with the two blokes' molecular structures lol

Senseidale

Just let me know when you are out and about, beer sounds good
Dale
"In 900 years of time and space, I've never met anyone who wasn't important"

lorisarvendu

Nov 18, 2014, 08:38 am #20 Last Edit: Jun 13, 2015, 08:33 am by hb88banzai
My wife was sent this photo by one of her Facebook friends, along with the caption "Can you see the Tardis in this photo?".

I'm guessing he means hiding behind the phonebox, but isn't that the National Gallery in Trafalgar Square?  I thought there were no boxes in Central London, only Posts?

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EDIT: Unknown Box thread merged with Nottingham Police Box thread in Non-TARDIS-like Police Boxes section. -- banzai

hb88banzai

Nov 18, 2014, 08:51 am #21 Last Edit: Jun 13, 2015, 08:34 am by hb88banzai
No, that's not Trafalgar Square, nor the Royal Exchange (I checked).

The films date this to mid 1965 (The Sound of Music was released on March 29th in the UK, The Knack on June 3rd).

Rassilons Rod

If it was Trafalgar Square, we would surely see Nelson's Column.
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

lorisarvendu

Duh! It's the Market Square in Nottingham as seen from Angel Row!  That's the old Odeon cinema on the right, and what is now Yates Wine Bar on the left, with the Town Hall straight ahead.  So that's the old Nottingham Market Square police box.

I work in Nottingham, I should have recognised this.

Rassilons Rod

There were boxes in Nottingham? Ö_Ö
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

hb88banzai

Nov 18, 2014, 02:58 pm #25 Last Edit: Nov 18, 2014, 03:12 pm by hb88banzai
Apparently.

Some reports are that the original Nottingham boxes were garden shed type boxes like Sunderland and Newcastle, but that these were replaced by the newer model pictured.

Another view of this later type Box - circa the 1970s --

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A bit later --

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The Market Square Box has since been moved and restored.

Here it is during restoration work --

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Here is what it looks like now at its new home --

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petewilson

Everyone must agree (London and Glasgow) definitely had the best design!   ;)

Dalekoracle

Totally agree with you! An earlier Nottingham Box is on display at the Galleries of Justice in the town.
A picture of it can be seen here:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g186356-d298383-i113630175-Galleries_of_Justice-Nottingham_Nottinghamshire_England.html


hb88banzai

Nov 19, 2014, 01:25 am #28 Last Edit: Mar 09, 2015, 05:06 am by hb88banzai
I saw that Galleries of Justice Box, but I read in one of the entries about it somewhere that it was actually pulled from Sunderland when they were decommissioned (in fact I have a newspaper article somewhere about their demise), so not a Nottingham Box at all - chose not to post a photo of it because of that uncertainty.

Along with the Met and Glasgow designs, I'd place the Edinburgh Boxes up there as really a great design. But then both were done by quite good Scottish architects, after all.

Interestingly, I've been reading some memos that indicate that the Royal Fine Art Commission (the body responsible for sponsoring the competition that gave rise to the iconic K2 and K6 GPO Telephone Kiosk design), had a very different opinion about the Met Police Box design. I don't have a copy of their report, but according to the Met/HO memos the Commission didn't like it at all. As early as 1938 there was a call to have an outside architect design a replacement, but it was shelved for a few months and then the war intervened. It was brought up again in 1947, but questions about how long police boxes would be needed at all since radio was beginning to come into its own shelved the idea. In the end, all we got was the simplified (some might say bastardized) Mark 5's (aka Mark 3's before we knew any better) a few years later.

One wonders what might have been (for ill or not) and what the TARDIS might have looked like as a result.

Very strange reality check considering most of us think the original Met Box is iconic - just a really, really good design. Great proportions, great architectural touches, etc, especially as originally designed by Trench - before all those odd tweaks with the roof done by the builders and all the chopping up of the front for the speakerphone units in the Glasgow boxes.

Mark

I feel sure that Nottingham had no boxes as such and relied upon police posts of some design or other. Not sure if I read it.

The box posted above appears to be no earlier than the 70's, this being based on ex Notts police officers recollections, and from what they both said - this was the only one.

The galleries of justice box does appear to be a Sunderland box and the last time I saw it, needed attention to its door. There were some blueprints for the Sunderland box on Flickr (don't have my laptop with me to share) and the box is coloured green same as the Sheffield ones were (and still are in the case of the sole survivor ).