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Started by thelostie102, Oct 04, 2009, 12:48 am

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thelostie102

Oct 04, 2009, 12:48 am Last Edit: Mar 21, 2010, 02:34 pm by Scarfwearer
Hello Im New...
  So I Was Wondering If Someone could please help me  by giving me a  Blue Print to make a McGann Console.............. I really want to make a Mcgann console for my friend when he comes over..............thnx.
      8-) ;D

( Can Someone maybe instead of a blue print, tell me the materials to use) ;)

starcross

Oct 04, 2009, 01:58 am #1 Last Edit: Jan 17, 2010, 08:40 pm by scarfwearer
Quote from: thelostie102 board=discussion thread=1796 post=22289 time=1254617336
Blue Print to make a McGann Console
( Can Someone maybe instead of a blue print, tell me the materials to use) ;)


Well I don't think I've seen a blueprint for that particular console. If you watch This Video. showing the original screen used console. You can work it all out on your own rather quickly, they give rough dimensions in the video. The console is also not too busy with gadgets so therefore easier to make compared to some of the TV consoles. 

As for materials, if just want one to impress your friend and not build a true replica; I would suggest the old DIY standard of cardboard, duct tape, and a  lick of Paint.

For something more permanent, and a lot more work, you would require more research and a lot of wood working tools.

Good Luck.

vortexsurfer

Oct 04, 2009, 10:38 am #2 Last Edit: Jan 17, 2010, 08:41 pm by scarfwearer
Do you want it to be an exact replica? If so the Regenerations book by Philip Segal has some of the original design plans.
I'm in the latter stages of building a console inspired by the Tv Movie design out of 5mm plywood but have gone my own way with it since getting the exact controls and switches can be a bit tricky. If you look on my thread in the console builds section there are some good pics and links.

Best of luck!

Teletran

Sep 17, 2009, 03:03 pm #3 Last Edit: Oct 26, 2010, 10:34 pm by Scarfwearer
Some of the original plans for this console taken from the making of book Doctor Who Regeneration. Copyright law isn't my forte but I figure this is equivalent to 10% for educational purposes. If you're interested in this Tardis I strongly recommend you get a copy of the book, check with your local library.

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geminitimelord

Sep 18, 2009, 01:08 pm #4 Last Edit: Jan 26, 2010, 10:51 am by scarfwearer
AWESOME INFO!

ravage

g'day
i like the infomation that it gives i didnt there was that much to this console
paul

hastran

Having built a virtual version of this console, I would take the dimesions from these plans but not the detail of the controls as they bare very little resemblance to the final console.

Benam

Quote from: hastran on Jul 05, 2010, 09:33 am
Having built a virtual version of this console, I would take the dimesions from these plans but not the detail of the controls as they bare very little resemblance to the final console.


What measurements did you use for the shelf?  Even if one extended around the console the three shelves shown in the plans, the shelf on the final prop seems wider than what the plans show.
See you 'round the vortex,
Benam

galacticprobe

Jul 06, 2010, 04:15 am #8 Last Edit: Jul 06, 2010, 04:56 am by galacticprobe
Quote from: BeNaM on Jul 05, 2010, 03:19 pm
What measurements did you use for the shelf?  Even if one extended around the console the three shelves shown in the plans, the shelf on the final prop seems wider than what the plans show.


Those plans might not have been the "final" builders' plans, but rather some advanced preliminary drawings. (Heck, look how many revisions the original "Trek"'s U.S.S. Enterprise went through from initial concept to what we saw on the screen, and even then the original quickly-tooled model used to show how the "final" version would look was displayed - what is now considered upside-down - against a starry background. Even the "final" built model went through two modifications; one for the Second Pilot, and another for the series.)

That 1996 console probably went through dozens of drafts before the final one was decided on, and even then as many of us probably know, alterations had to be made for one reason or another during the building process so that even the final "built it just like this" drawings differed from the finished prop. I know I'm going to be corrected on this (unless I'm very lucky), but judging from the side of that shelf that has the keypad and the jumper cable panels on it (the jumpers looking larger than your standard phono plugs; the keys looking about the size of standard, old-fashioned typewriter keys - about half-inch diameter - separated by about one-quarter-inch, plus the framing work around that panel looking to be about one inch, plus another inch between the framing and the edge of the shelf), I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the shelf is between nine and ten inches wide.

Also, check these photos which are helping me base my guesstimate (which I'm sure are already in the Console Reference section, but rather than digging through everything):
Console07(reduced-lightened).jpg

Console01(reduced).jpg

In the first photo (which I lightened a little) you can see a black-covered binder on the shelf near the gentleman. If it's got standard 8.5" x 11" paper (not sure what that translates to in UK measurements for paper) you see that on the 8.5" sides it's narrower than the shelf. And in both photos there is a large book on the shelf (in the foreground) that looks to be at least 8.5" x 11" as well, and the shelf is also wider than that book.

I'm sure someone on this forum knows the lucky winner of that "How Who are You?" contest that got to actually see the console in person (if he's not already a member, or the person in these photos who owns it who I believe is the bearded gentleman in the first photo - again please correct me if I'm wrong - or the 8th Doctor Cosplayer who is in the second photo and has had numerous photos taken in costume at that console, or the companion who is with him in this photo). Any one of them could take a quick measure, if they haven't already, and let us know how wide the shelf is (if the person who knows them asks nicely).

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

Borusa

Quote from: geminitimelord on Sep 18, 2009, 01:08 pm
AWESOME INFO!


I completely agree!  Whether those pre-production sketches were followed closely or not, it's great to have them available here, particularly combined with those photos from Dino.

I'm no great fan of that movie, but it certainly radically altered the direction of control room designs from smaller rooms to cathedral-like dimensions.  As for the console, I certainly appreciate the apparent Victorian stylings that (aside from being appropriate for our favorite Time Lord) might be nods to George Pal's 1960 "The Time Machine."
"You have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe."

Benam

Quote from: galacticprobe on Jul 06, 2010, 04:15 am
That 1996 console probably went through dozens of drafts before the final one was decided on, and even then as many of us probably know, alterations had to be made for one reason or another during the building process so that even the final "built it just like this" drawings differed from the finished prop. I know I'm going to be corrected on this (unless I'm very lucky), but judging from the side of that shelf that has the keypad and the jumper cable panels on it (the jumpers looking larger than your standard phono plugs; the keys looking about the size of standard, old-fashioned typewriter keys - about half-inch diameter - separated by about one-quarter-inch, plus the framing work around that panel looking to be about one inch, plus another inch between the framing and the edge of the shelf), I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the shelf is between nine and ten inches wide.


Nine or ten inches seems about right to me too.  I ask because I am in the middle of making a model/toy of this console to scale with the Character Options toys.  The 8th Doctor's console has been my favorite since I first laid eyes on it in 1996.  And now, with a figure of the 8th Doctor finally being released, I more anxious than ever to make progress.
See you 'round the vortex,
Benam

Borusa

Jul 07, 2010, 03:08 am #11 Last Edit: Jul 07, 2010, 06:36 pm by Borusa
Best of luck, BeNaM (right... I said "galacticprobe" at first - m'bad)! No question: it's a beautiful design.
"You have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe."

galacticprobe

Jul 07, 2010, 04:45 am #12 Last Edit: Jul 07, 2010, 04:48 am by galacticprobe
Quote from: Borusa on Jul 07, 2010, 03:08 am
Best of luck, galacticprobe! No question: it's a beautiful design.


Erm... I think you mean "Best of luck, BeNaM." I'd love to build this console, but I don't have enough room in my house for it. I'm not even working on a model of it (at least not yet).

I've been trying to convince the wife that a console would fit in great with our renovated living room and its SciFi-themed decor, which will also serve as the place for gaming (the electronic kind: Game Cube, Wii, PS2, etc.). Even the scaled-down version 2005 console I've been scribbling on is starting to look questionable, even though the wife gave it the OK. (I think she may have given in knowing that it would never fit, at least not without knocking out a wall and she's NOT OK'ing that. This house has very small rooms!) I may just have to stick with trying Crispin's Season 14 wooden console. That one might fit.

And to think that I finally got enough of the right number and color of bubble globes for that 2005 console. (And I haven't given up yet. As the 3rd Doctor always said, "Where there's life, there's hope.") So I wouldn't mind some good luck wishes for that!

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

hastran

Quote from: BeNaM on Jul 05, 2010, 03:19 pm
What measurements did you use for the shelf?  Even if one extended around the console the three shelves shown in the plans, the shelf on the final prop seems wider than what the plans show.


On my model the shelf is 14.5 cm wide

Teletran

Do we know the diameter of the crystal rods in the time rotor?
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