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Started by chainsaw, Jul 02, 2009, 08:47 pm

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kiwidoc

Aug 17, 2009, 03:28 am #45 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:38 am by scarfwearer
There's a range of smaller Yale locks around - one on my local online auction place is selling for around USD$13 at the moment (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=235375368) and looks like this: [noimg]http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/47/100985147_full.jpg[/img] yale851.jpg but you're probably better to source one locally if you can so you can cheeck measurements etc are right for your box.  I'm on the wrong side of the world really so you'll problably have more luck and cheaper post closer to home but if, on the other hand, you want me to buy on your behalf and post to you for a Paypal reimbursement, no problem - just email me at trekker@paradise.net.nz.

Cheers, Glen

EDIT: added a space between images so they wrap :)

dustyfro

Aug 17, 2009, 04:16 am #46 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:38 am by scarfwearer
Why are the Yale brand about 4 times as much as other locks of that type?  It's also hard to find a shorter lock by searching for "40 mm" on US sites...what is that in inches?
I'll get back to you about the lock once the old girl has materialized in my apartment and I find out exactly what I'm dealing with.

(Edit: 40 mm is 1.5748 inches for the American builders)
x Hannah

kiwidoc

Aug 17, 2009, 04:23 am #47 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:38 am by scarfwearer
According to the handy google calculater (just type a question or equation into the search box) :

40 millimeters = 1.57480315 inches

Quote from: dustyfro on Aug 17, 2009, 04:16 amWhy are the Yale brand about 4 times as much as other locks of that type?  It's also hard to find a shorter lock by searching for "40 mm" on US sites...what is that in inches?
I'll get back to you about the lock once the old girl has materialized in my apartment and I find out exactly what I'm dealing with.

Teletran

Aug 17, 2009, 04:34 am #48 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:39 am by scarfwearer
I'm no carpenter but I suppose you could use the lock cosmetically and use a different latch to close/open the door, at least until you find a lock that fits.
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TG

Aug 17, 2009, 05:19 pm #49 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:39 am by scarfwearer
Hi Dustyfro, I've sent you a pm about the Yale lock, the short backset ones are still available over here sometimes
TG

dustyfro

Aug 24, 2009, 04:17 am #50 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:39 am by scarfwearer
So, she's all assembled and I am going to need the shorter lock after all (or else the door won't close).  But then my aunt reminded me that I have a source!  My cousin's husband is a traveling juggler (no, really) and they're going to be in England in the next few weeks.  If you UKers know of a store where they could find the 40mm lock for real cheap, doesn't matter what brand, I could ask them to pick one up for me and bring it back at the end of September.  I'm pretty sure they're going to be in London.
x Hannah

Theta Sigma

Jun 01, 2009, 07:01 am #51 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:41 am by scarfwearer
Quote from: dustyfro board=manual thread=1160 post=20797 time=1243825705Did any of you who used 3/4" boards for your framing have trouble installing your latches?  I haven't opening the packaging on mine, but I'm afraid that it's not going to fit securely on a 3/4" board, since it looks like it's built for a thicker door.


Yes, you will have to build out the area around where you are going to mount the lock with another 3/4" layer of scrap wood on the inside of the door.  You will also have to do the same thing on the other door where the strike plate is mounted.

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chriskingbees

Jun 01, 2009, 07:31 am #52 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:41 am by scarfwearer
Hi Hannah
I think you may be able to cut down the through bolts and and spigot. When you open it up, you'll get a better idea, BUT, I seem to remember you are having outward opening doors. This means you will have to open the lock mechanism itself, and reverse the triangular slide bolt. Not difficult, if I could do it, then I'm sure you can.
KB
PS TO ALL Hannah is a special class teacher. I think we should all exalt her karma, yeah

dustyfro

Jun 02, 2009, 05:05 am #53 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:41 am by scarfwearer
QuoteThis means you will have to open the lock mechanism itself, and reverse the triangular slide bolt.

Humina-what-now?  Is there a diagram for this?
x Hannah

Rassilons Rod

Jun 02, 2009, 07:39 am #54 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:41 am by scarfwearer
Just think about how the lock catches the door frame when it closes.

The sloped part hits the other door/ door frame, and gets pushed in. If it hits the flat part, then the door can never close.

So you take the cover off and flip it over. Its really simple, this half of the lock is really basic. The hard stuff is in the key barrel, but you'll never have to open that up :)

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dustyfro

Jun 02, 2009, 04:45 pm #55 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:42 am by scarfwearer
Oh, I think I get it.  I lived in a house that had the doorknob reversed for a while.  We had to hold the bolt open to close it and even when it was locked, the door always blew open.
x Hannah

unclelew

Feb 24, 2008, 02:17 pm #56 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:44 am by scarfwearer
That would be very helpful to me also...I'm starting my doors today, and yesterday I was wandering around Lowe's looking for a proper looking lock.  SURPRISE! I couldn't find one.
Help anyone???  (on install photos and where to find the right lock??)

DoctorWho8

Feb 24, 2008, 06:44 pm #57 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:44 am by scarfwearer
You can email Yale International and ask them if they know or if they can send you a Security Latch Model No. 80 with Cylinder No. 1109E and standard rim lock.  internationalsales@yalelock.com

It's in their on catalog, pages 17 & 23.   http://www.assaabloydss.com/library/catalogs/Yale/pdf/42117.pdf

There is a Yale affiliated security outfit that you can also contact to see if they can help also.
DOOR SECURITY SOLUTIONS OF FLORIDA
225 S. Westmonte Drive
Suite 1170
Altamonte Springs, FL 32714
Phone:  407.788.0198 (main), 800.835.9409 (toll-free)
Fax:  407.788.0285

Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

atomicgraph

Feb 25, 2008, 12:36 am #58 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:44 am by scarfwearer
Quote from: moonpieone board=manual thread=1201817709 post=1203862628That would be very helpful to me also...I'm starting my doors today, and yesterday I was wandering around Lowe's looking for a proper looking lock.  SURPRISE! I couldn't find one.
Help anyone???  (on install photos and where to find the right lock??)
i got my lock at lowes it looks great the only thing is the key is squareish at the end but the lock its self is awesome it has the lever on the inside and everything. its pretty easy to install just drill out the door (it came with a template to place so everything lines up right) and bolt it together the other door gets the "catch" for the lock. the best part is this lock is only $10.00. they aren't hanging on the shelfs they are down past all the fancy door locks and i think its made by "first watch"

willytron

Feb 25, 2008, 10:35 pm #59 Last Edit: Apr 30, 2010, 11:44 am by scarfwearer
I got my lock at lowes, also.  The same one as atomicgraph.  I found mine on the bottom shelf, this was after I had been to lowes looking for such a lock about four times.