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Started by TG, Jun 27, 2005, 04:36 pm

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TG

Oct 27, 2009, 07:39 pm #15 Last Edit: Feb 14, 2010, 02:00 pm by scarfwearer
Thanks KB  :) and Crispin  :)
it is the best Birthday  :D

Doctor Iz

Oct 28, 2009, 03:21 am #16 Last Edit: Feb 14, 2010, 02:01 pm by scarfwearer
TG,

It is so good to see your TARDIS materializing and pehaps good old DT will pop out for a cup of tea and some scones.  Yummy! :)  I have missed seeing your TARDIS.  I am glad your getting the ol' girl back together.  She looks incredible.

Happy B-day to you as well.

Cheers,
Jon
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h310/jonizdo/Logos/DRIZ_rev20080226copy-2.jpg)

electricmetaphor

Jun 27, 2005, 05:30 pm #17 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:37 pm by scarfwearer
Looks pretty good to me!
As long as it looks good to you, that's the important thing. (That, and making sure your rectangles are really rectangles, and not trapezoids or something.)

EM

purpleblancmange

Jun 27, 2005, 05:51 pm #18 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:37 pm by scarfwearer
If you're bothered about the beading being rounded, what you could do is stick them all into place, then use filler to sharpen the edges - that would work... just means using lots more elbow grease.  Anyway, your build is looking good so far, so keep up the great work!

Purple

ironageman

Jun 27, 2005, 06:29 pm #19 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:37 pm by scarfwearer
...or could you plane the thing?  It looks as if the beading's slightly proud of the surface so you'd exterminate two birds with one stone. Anyhow, it's a neat build method ... I've seen a similar moulding somewhere with a sharper edge, which would solve the problem... can't think where, though...!
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Mark

Jun 27, 2005, 06:40 pm #20 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:38 pm by scarfwearer
Nice work T.G. That looks like a pretty solid door from here (and your dog seems to like it ;D)

As far as the beading goes, it's not that big of an issue really is it?

To echo what other's have said, other people's comments are important and useful, but the bottom line is - As long as you're happy, then your build is fine.

Don't forget, not all of us are expert carpenters, and sometime convenience and compromise is better than 100% accuracy ;).

Keep up the good work TG

TG

Jun 27, 2005, 07:27 pm #21 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:38 pm by scarfwearer
Thank you all for your comments, I really appreciate it.
I'm not sure that I'm happy with the doors.

I scanned the beading and it looks like this
champfer.jpg

When I put the door together properly the beading is flush with the door, It's 22mm beading on 12mm ply fitted to 34mm wood (so the back of the door is flat). But the idea to plane it is a good one, I could set the beading forward and it would mean that on the reverse, the panels would be slightly inset - which might look nice.

If anyone can find me a better moulding/beading - I'd be grateful! (And then I can use these doors on the back)
Cheers
TG

Scarfwearer

Jun 28, 2005, 04:34 am #22 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:38 pm by scarfwearer
In the US the lumber shops will cut large sheets of plywood to your specification; I don't remember whether they do this in the UK. If you want more than a few cuts they charge a nominal fee, but it makes lifting and loading manageable.

I don't think I've seen a beading that shape. You might be able to use a former with the right cross-section and some filler or putty, though. Or you could use narrow strips of laminate with some filler behind. What you have would be close enough for me though.

Does anyone know if the original TV prop had chamfers on the panels? It's hard to tell from the photos I've seen. e.g. the Time Warrior photo of Sarah Jane on the TARDIS Library:
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~trekker/policeboxes/tv1.html

Looks good so far.

Crispin


purpleblancmange

Jun 28, 2005, 08:41 am #23 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:38 pm by scarfwearer
Quote from: scarfwearer board=build thread=1119890187 post=1119933282
Does anyone know if the original TV prop had chamfers on the panels? It's hard to tell from the photos I've seen. e.g. the Time Warrior photo of Sarah Jane on the TARDIS Library:
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~trekker/policeboxes/tv1.html



The original prop didn't have any bevels at all.

hb88banzai

Jun 28, 2005, 01:44 pm #24 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:39 pm by scarfwearer
[/quote]

The original prop didn't have any bevels at all.[/quote]

I wonder.

Just how sure are you of the lack of any bevel on the original prop? 

Reason I ask is that I detect a distinct highlighting effect in most relevant pictures to an extent that there shouldn't be if there were no bevel at all, even after taking into account camera and lighting angles. 

For instance, if you look at the pics from "War Games" where Troughton is trying to reach the key in the lock, both the close up and long shot appear to have been taken from approximately the same vertical position and based on eyeballing which is confirmed by the angled meeting of the extension of the horizontal lines formed by the rails, the rails in line with the key cylinder are ABOVE the line of site, so any 90 degree angle to the edge of a board would leave the upper side of the rails completely out of site due to perspective. 

Yet, there is a distinct highlighting consistent with a beveled rail side on all of the visible rails, and seemingly far more than could be accounted for by any rounding off of the rail edges with age and repainting and more regular than could be accounted for by dirt and the like. 

If there is in fact beveling there, it appears to be quite a bit less than an actual Police Box's, which if we take to be 21-22 degrees (based on Ironageman's measurements) would probably make the original prop box's at around half that.

I might be wrong, but the impression I get from all the pictures I've seen just don't seem consistent with a pure 0 degree bevel/90 degree cut to the rails.  Close, but not quite.


purpleblancmange

Jun 28, 2005, 02:15 pm #25 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:39 pm by scarfwearer
I know that there weren't bevels because I asked about this from somebody I used to work with who worked on the show with that particular prop... he said it was built from off the shelf stock that they quickly put together.  The highlighting probably is being created by the texturing on the prop, all that artex and stuff - I know this happens because I've built a TARDIS before like this and got similar results.

Scarfwearer

Aug 13, 2005, 05:15 pm #26 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:39 pm by scarfwearer
Any pictures of progress, TG?

Crispin

TG

Aug 13, 2005, 08:48 pm #27 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:39 pm by scarfwearer
Well, I should have pictures by now and I have a lot of lame excuses. Some things have gone wrong. Wood is just so....organic, never straight, knotted in the wrong place or twisted.
I've just dismantled what I'd built which is doors, corner posts and base because it's pouring with rain but I need to make the decision to keep it outside and just put a tarp over it.
Not having a workshop, I have managed to make the house considerably smaller on the inside, storing all the wood.
So, pictures soon but I'm worried it might not be up to Rebuilders high standards  :)
TG

Scarfwearer

Aug 13, 2005, 09:30 pm #28 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:39 pm by scarfwearer
Well don't be shy! I think the point of a group like this is to share experiences, both good or bad and learn from each other. I hope we don't have 'standards' people have to meet.
Wood never straight? Tell me about it! The left door on my TARDIS is bowed inward nearly half an inch due to warping, and my cabinet bolts don't fit properly because I didn't drill the recesses straight. Much of the refit I'm doing is fixing things I didn't get right the first time around.
Oh, if you put dowels in the bottom of your posts to align them on the base, use at least 3/4" ones. I used a pair of 1/2" ones on each post and half of them broke...

Hope the weather improves.

Crispin

TG

Aug 15, 2005, 04:17 pm #29 Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 12:40 pm by scarfwearer
Progress...
I've been treating more wood with preservative today but got bored and went shopping for handles.
These are solid brass so I'm going to strip the lacquer / varnish and let the weather do the weathering - good plan eh?
th_handles.jpg

Didn't mean rebuilders had standards to meet - just that the standard of TARDIS is high!
TG