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Started by the doctor who2, May 17, 2013, 09:45 pm

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the doctor who2

May 17, 2013, 09:45 pm Last Edit: Jul 18, 2015, 09:33 pm by the doctor who2


TO SEE THE FINAL SYMBOLS, PLEASE SKIP TO PAGE 11
EVERYTHING BEFORE IS JUST DESIGN DEVELOPMENT




Right, I've decided to take on the task of recreating the logos that appear on the Spinning section of the Time Rotor in the new TARDIS.
I first started with getting as many resource images as i could to work out how many symbols there are and whether all the symbols are visible in the episodes.

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And then worked out there are 18 sides to each of the 3 rims each with a repeating pattern of symbols, which makes things so much easier.

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and cut out each of the visible symbols so i could finally work out each symbol

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Here i have included four of the symbols i have recreated but i have created all 18 symbols but they all need another going over and some tweeks being made to finish them off which ill post soon. These aren't the final symbols!

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"There's no point being GROWN UP if you can't be CHILDISH sometimes!"

The Fourth Doctor - Robot, S12 E01

DoctorWho8

Kudos to you for figuring out this madness!
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

Kingpin

Splendid work, that's saved me all that hassle then. :)



I feel your pain though, the panel with all those twist handles has Gallifreyan text on it, which was rather fun to work with when drafting up the plan drawing for that console panel.

galacticprobe

May 18, 2013, 03:14 am #3 Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 03:14 am by galacticprobe
I absolutely agree with everything said so far! Magnificent work and one heck of a painstaking job! I am certainly looking forward to the final product. The ceiling in my den needs a centerpiece. (It will be small, maybe 2 feet in diameter at most, only one tier made from poster-board, and it won't move... that whole spinning thing and vertigo issues :P. But will look really cool! :D)

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

the doctor who2

Quote from: DoctorWho8 on May 17, 2013, 10:22 pm
Kudos to you for figuring out this madness!
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff


Haha, ye madness is the right word. I always start things that i wish i hadn't. But i must admit i enjoy doing this sort of thing its a challenge. :)

Quote from: Kingpin on May 18, 2013, 12:11 am
Splendid work, that's saved me all that hassle then. :)
I feel your pain though, the panel with all those twist handles has Gallifreyan text on it, which was rather fun to work with when drafting up the plan drawing for that console panel.


Thanks Kingpin, knew it would come in handy for some people. I'd forgotten about the text on the console, i think the door frame design will be my next challenge. :)

Quote from: galacticprobe on May 18, 2013, 03:14 am
I absolutely agree with everything said so far! Magnificent work and one heck of a painstaking job! I am certainly looking forward to the final product. The ceiling in my den needs a centerpiece.
Dino.


Thanks Galacticprobe, its taking up quite a bit of time, but i just do it while the tvs on so don't notice how painstaking it is. I'm putting all my rough ones up now, but i think all of them to need a few things sorting on them, also they are really high res with transparent backgrounds. so everyone can use them :)

Here are 4 more of the symbols one of these has to be the most complex but i think i have it about spot on;

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"There's no point being GROWN UP if you can't be CHILDISH sometimes!"

The Fourth Doctor - Robot, S12 E01

galacticprobe

May 19, 2013, 03:38 am #5 Last Edit: May 19, 2013, 03:39 am by galacticprobe
These are brilliant: absolutely brilliant! (At the risk of sounding over-eager... Keep 'em comin'!)

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

the doctor who2

Quote from: galacticprobe on May 19, 2013, 03:38 am
These are brilliant: absolutely brilliant! (At the risk of sounding over-eager... Keep 'em comin'!)Dino.


:) Thanks Dino.

Sorry for the delay but here 4 more gallifreyan symbols, again none of these are completely finished.
Started to find these last few hard to recreate simply due to the lack of reference images for that side of the spinning section. All the same logos are repeated.

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Some more will be posted very soon :)
"There's no point being GROWN UP if you can't be CHILDISH sometimes!"

The Fourth Doctor - Robot, S12 E01

galacticprobe

May 28, 2013, 04:16 am #7 Last Edit: May 28, 2013, 04:17 am by galacticprobe
You know, I've got to say that anytime a new console and room are introduced, it usually takes me into the second series with that console to get used to it, and a little longer to actually start liking it. But between Kingpin's screen grabs and this great effort to decipher the order of those symbols on that whirligig, I'm already starting to like this one! (Mind you, the Hartnell and the 2005 console are still tied for my favorite, but I am starting to like this 2013 version in less time than it took me to start liking the 2010 version.)

Once again, I say brilliant job, the doctor who2!

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

the doctor who2

Quote from: galacticprobe on May 28, 2013, 04:16 am
You know, I've got to say that anytime a new console and room are introduced, it usually takes me into the second series with that console to get used to it, and a little longer to actually start liking it. But between Kingpin's screen grabs and this great effort to decipher the order of those symbols on that whirligig, I'm already starting to like this one! (Mind you, the Hartnell and the 2005 console are still tied for my favorite, but I am starting to like this 2013 version in less time than it took me to start liking the 2010 version.)
Once again, I say brilliant job, the doctor who2!
Dino.


Thanks Dino, I find it does take a few episodes to get used to a console and its surrounding. But i found i liked this console room straight away.

Sorry about the wait for these, been very busy with work haven't stopped. Here is three more symbol now it starts to get harder as like i said before there aren't that many pictures of the other side.
Ill try post the last three as soon as. :)

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"There's no point being GROWN UP if you can't be CHILDISH sometimes!"

The Fourth Doctor - Robot, S12 E01

galacticprobe

Jun 13, 2013, 10:36 pm #9 Last Edit: Jun 13, 2013, 10:38 pm by galacticprobe
Great job on these latest three symbols!

Since the symbols seem to be in the same order and pattern on all three tiers, if you can't see the "far" side of the tiers, you could try looking for an easy-to-spot symbol on any of the tiers and see what the other symbols are around it. You might be able to piece the final symbols in that way.

Thoughts?

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

the doctor who2

Quote from: galacticprobe on Jun 13, 2013, 10:36 pm
Great job on these latest three symbols!
Since the symbols seem to be in the same order and pattern on all three tiers, if you can't see the "far" side of the tiers, you could try looking for an easy-to-spot symbol on any of the tiers and see what the other symbols are around it. You might be able to piece the final symbols in that way.
Thoughts?
Dino.


Thanks Dino! :) You'd have thought that, but i got screencaps from every time the console is on screen and i'm struggling with just 1 Symbol, i can't find a decent shot anywhere, i've had to guess most of it. Which is a bit of a pain. We always end up seeing the same symbols in most shots of the top of the spinning rotor. I will be doing a bit more digging but at the moment it is hard to find.
"There's no point being GROWN UP if you can't be CHILDISH sometimes!"

The Fourth Doctor - Robot, S12 E01

slidin_sidewayz

As anyone who knows of me here is aware, I try not to stick my 5 cents worth in if I can avoid it.  :P
If it's not too know-it-all like, I modified one of the symbols to what I could make out from the source pic. It's not easy, as you say, seeing as there's very few resources, but I hope it's a little closer to what we're wanting.DW707HD_25081b.jpeg

galacticprobe

Jun 15, 2013, 06:31 am #12 Last Edit: Jun 15, 2013, 06:31 am by galacticprobe
Wow, slidin'! Good eyes! Now that you mention it, I toggled back and forth between your modified image and the source image and the doctor who2's image, and you're right; it did need a bit of tweaking. In fact, I went back and forth several times, enlarging the source image as much as I dared without it pixelating and it looks like that one symbol still needs a little more tweaking. There are more fine lines and small circles in it that at first (or fifth!) glance. (I might even try my hand at this one.)

If only we could get a good look at it head-on.

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

the doctor who2

Quote from: slidin_sidewayz on Jun 15, 2013, 05:39 am
As anyone who knows of me here is aware, I try not to stick my 5 cents worth in if I can avoid it.  :P
If it's not too know-it-all like, I modified one of the symbols to what I could make out from the source pic. It's not easy, as you say, seeing as there's very few resources, but I hope it's a little closer to what we're wanting.DW707HD_25081b.jpeg


Brilliant slidin_sidewayz, i welcome any help with tweaking these symbols. If there are any other symbols that need tweaking let me know. i do realise they all need bits adding and removing from them and i plan on doing these soon, hopefully this small break from these will refresh me eyes so i can see things i missed the first time.

Its a shame the BBC website hasn't added production artwork for this piece of the console. Would make things easier :)
"There's no point being GROWN UP if you can't be CHILDISH sometimes!"

The Fourth Doctor - Robot, S12 E01

galacticprobe

Jun 15, 2013, 07:54 pm #14 Last Edit: Jun 15, 2013, 07:56 pm by galacticprobe
This might help. I've lightened the source image (and sharpened it a little) to help being out more details. It does bring out a few of the thinner lines and circles in it.

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Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"