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Classic Series Gallifreyan - Reference.

Started by warmcanofcoke, Mar 09, 2013, 07:13 am

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warmcanofcoke

type63 was cool enough to point out the letter from The Deadly Assassin
here is a screen cap
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why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

Rassilons Rod

That was always my favourite Gallifreyan script :)

And it's signed over the Prydonian Seal!!! :D

Excellent clean grab.
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

warmcanofcoke

why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

type63

It seems to flick between older Greek/mathematical Gallifreyan and then more modern (3rd/4th Doctor time) to be more symbolly. Bear in mind we don't know how long it is between the Doctor's various trips to Gallifrey. It is only a few years to him but could be hundreds of years to them. Remember how different Gallifrey is between the Deadly Assasin and The Invasion Of Time.

P.S Why does the forums spell check not recognise the word Gallifrey?

Mark

Some great grabs there, wonder if it is possible to figure out some sort of translation, maybe create an alphabet?

I may be wrong (happens a fair bit) but I'm sure I read that when it comes to Gallifrey a TARDIS can only travel within normal Gallifrey time. ie if the TARDIS doesn't return for the equivalent of 100 years on Gallifrey then 100 years will have passed for the TARDIS crew.

As always, happy to be corrected if required.

warmcanofcoke

to type63 - I'll look into it but I believe Crispin has mentioned adding new words to the dictionary has some sort of unwanted effect ... I can't remember specifically - I think it may cause lag somewhere in the posting process ... I'm not sure.

to Mark - well I'm not up to creating an entirely new Alphabet and language myself. I remember reading the words "The Doctor starts muttering to himself in Gallifreyan" in a New Adventures once I got the impression it sounded Gaelic. If we look at the message from The Tomb of Rassilon - I believe several members from a Gallifreyan court are present, including "prosecutor" and "Doctor" - so one wonders if the Doctor had a hand in Rassilon's entombment and if it required a court prosecutor to get him there.  :P
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

handofomega

Quote from: warmcanofcoke on Mar 10, 2013, 02:45 pm
That is called "Circular Gallifreyan" if you would like to open a different thread that will be acceptable. It can be found on google images quite easily.


No.  What I meant was that I would love it if we could all solve the mystery of the old school Gallifreyan so we could make a font that is usable.   What I was saying was that there is already a "Circular Gallifreyan" that has been made into a font.   I am much more interested in the old series version.

warmcanofcoke

Sorry I misunderstood.  ;)
Yeah - that could be quite fun. I'd love to use the character that looks like mouse (center of the Deadly Assassin Letter) in print.
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

handofomega

labeling console parts would look amazing!  ;D

warmcanofcoke

I believe the Third Doctor did that
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Just trying to find a good close up.
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

galacticprobe

Mar 11, 2013, 02:55 pm #25 Last Edit: Mar 11, 2013, 03:11 pm by galacticprobe
I don't know if this will be of any help, but I soured the net to find them:

http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/archaic_gallifreyan (seen in "The Worshipful and Ancient Law of Gallifrey" and on the Tomb of Rassilon)

http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/assassin_s_gallifreyan (seen in "The Deadly Assassin")

Apparently to download these you have to register. It's free, just create an account (sort of like you had to do to join here). They'll send you an e-mail to confirm that you are a humanoid and not a bot. Then just click the link in the e-mail and you're good to go. The fonts download really fast, and since they're TTFs you can just slid them into your Font folder and start typing away. (They look pretty cool, too.)

Gallifreyan from "The Worshipful and Ancient Law of Gallifrey"
The above says: Gallifreyan from "The Worshipful and Ancient Law of Gallifrey" in archaic-gallifreyan.ttf Apparently it's a web-recognized font. (So if you want to really make someone think you can change the font of your message, though I wouldn't advise doing that, unless you just want to make it your signature. See the post on translations to other languages for those rules.)

Unfortunately the assassins-gallifrayan.ttf isn't a web-recognized font so I can't demonstrate what that one looks like here. But at least I could show you the above archaic style from what I'm guessing is the "Shada" book. Although, when I type this:

If this book should care to roam. Box its ears and send it home.

And convert it to archaic-gallifreyan, it ends up looking like this:
If this book should care to roam.
Box its ears and send it home.


So it's not the same as seen in the Book. But at least it's something to play with.

Dino.
(Dino.)
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

type63

Wow that's great (the font). I've been looking for something similar for a while!
I have had a go at assigning the symbols from Shada to the Human English alphabet. Some is logic (Greek letters etc.) whereas others is "pseudo-logic". Some is just random assignment. I created it to label my console panel but I am enjoying using it as a personal code.
I liked the idea t the TARDIS is labelled in OHG as it makes it feel like a machine but keeps a sense of mystery.

handofomega

Used one of the Gallifreyan fonts you guys posted from fontstruct in a Sketch-Up to label the Fast Return switch.  Looks great!   Thank you Dino!  ;D

galacticprobe

Mar 14, 2013, 03:55 am #28 Last Edit: Mar 14, 2013, 03:56 am by galacticprobe
I aim to please! :D

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

warmcanofcoke

Aug 26, 2016, 06:01 am #29 Last Edit: Aug 26, 2016, 06:02 am by warmcanofcoke
Arc of Infinity keypad
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Still can't make it out....
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.