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Classic Series Gallifreyan - Reference.

Started by warmcanofcoke, Mar 09, 2013, 07:13 am

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warmcanofcoke

Mar 09, 2013, 07:13 am Last Edit: Mar 10, 2013, 02:42 pm by warmcanofcoke
*this thread is not for "Circular Gallifreyan" (new series Doctor Who) - there are several easy to google references for that.

Occasionally the Doctor Who prop department used Gallifreyan Numbers or Letters (Looks like Greek to me) on both props and sets. These reference posts are here if anyone in the future would like to include these letters and numbers on a future build.

Doctor Who Castrovalva reference.
from the 1983 Doctor Who annual.
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Numbers on the Master's Control device.
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The Five Doctors (Olde High Gallifreyan)
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The Gallifreyan from this episode were taken from the Making of Doctor Who from 1972.
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why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

hb88banzai

The Doctor's calling card from "Remembrance of the Daleks" (1988):

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type63

From Gareth Roberts book "Shada":
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Translated loosely it means "If this book should care to roam. Box its ears and send it home."

warmcanofcoke

Numbers from Arc of Infinity
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I would love to get a close examination of this key pad.
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

galacticprobe

Mar 10, 2013, 06:16 am #4 Last Edit: Mar 10, 2013, 06:20 am by galacticprobe
Wow! This is fascinating from several aspects that I never noticed until these images were laid out like this.

The Master's remote control: the symbols look like a mix of those from the City of Exxilon ("Death to the Daleks"), those inside the Pyramid of Mars (same name story) - with some color variations to them;

The small obelisk from "The Five Doctors": That writing certainly looks like letters from the Greek alphabet as well as some mathematical equations (real or thrown together for the story). The top line on the obelisk (the side we can see in the photo of the 1st Doctor leaning over to examine it closely) is the same as that used for The Doctor's "matrix designation" (name?) in the "High Court" Indictment. (It's found again on the same side of the obelisk, about in the middle.) Other such "strings" are also used on parts of the Indictment.

The Doctor's calling card: seems to pull a few symbols from that obelisk as well, but some seem like ordinary mathematical symbols (the [ and ] brackets, the = and the - signs). Others I'm not sure, though I have seen the triangle with the + on top of it used on navigational charts to denote a church steeple that would be visible from sea in order to take a bearing from.

The keypad from "Arc of Infinity" is hard to see, but it looks like it's got many of the same symbols as the Master's remote control.

Finally, interestingly enough, in that image from the Gareth Roberts' book you can see the Circular Gallifreyan just starting to crop up in a few places. (Maybe RTD and the Moff liked it so much they decided to expand on it during the New Series?)

Great references to the Classic Gallifreyan written language, and an outstanding job by all who found and posted these!

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

type63

I think that is unlikely as Shada was only published in 2011. I think that GR used the Gallifreyan from the obelisk whilst embellishing it with mathematical formulae (the non equals sign and direct proportion sign). I think the circular Gallifreyan is a "nod to the future" as only DW can do!

type63

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This is the "V" of Rassilon. For me to explain what it says would ruin the book for you (it's from Shada) but I urge you to read it! But this is Gallifreyan from about 30,000 years before the Doctors time (when the Type 40 came into use).
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The Doctor's note to the Time Lords in "The Deadly Assasin". Can't remember what it says. I suggest you watch the episode if you're curious.
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These are both from the DVD of Shada. The one is from a prop when it was sold for auction. I believe this is another form of Gallifreyan.

warmcanofcoke

why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

Rassilons Rod

Wasn't that Viking runes, in Battlefield?
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

the_doctor

I could be wrong but I thought the Doctor wrote that in Gallifreyan. The Viking runes were from Fenric.

handofomega

Someone has a modern Gallfreyan font out there made up of the concentric circles...  I wouldn't mind having this version in my fonts as well...

warmcanofcoke

Mar 10, 2013, 02:45 pm #11 Last Edit: Mar 10, 2013, 02:46 pm by warmcanofcoke
That is called "Circular Gallifreyan" if you would like to open a different thread that will be acceptable. It can be found on google images quite easily.
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

warmcanofcoke

Quote from: rassilonsrod on Mar 10, 2013, 02:22 pm
Wasn't that Viking runes, in Battlefield?


The Doctor said it was in his handwriting - and the human archeologist didn't know what language it was in.
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

Rassilons Rod

Maybe the art department just reused the idea from when it came up in Frenric. Certainly looks very Runic, anyway :)
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

warmcanofcoke

Invasion of Time (maybe a different font?)
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why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.