Dematerialisation Lever - Clues to identification

[BioDoctor900]

Just looked typed in Vee into google and found this description of the word on wikipedia, this is what came up:

VEE or Vee may refer to:
"Vee", common English pronunciation of V, the twenty-second letter in the Latin alphabet
VEE, Venezuelan Equine Encephalomyelitis virus, a mosquito-borne viral horse pathogen
VEE, one of the abbreviations used for power connections in integrated electronics
Vee belt, power transmission belt of trapezoidal section
VEE Corporation, a family entertainment production company headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Vee junction, a type of railway junction
Agilent VEE, a visual programming and dataflow programming language and development environment
Vecepia "Vee" Towery, contestant and winner of Survivor: Marquesas
Vee, a character in Kids TV series Chuggington.
VEE, Visual Enhancement Engine technology from QuickLogic Corporation.
Vee, Estonia, village in Halinga Parish, Pärnu County, Estonia
Vee (surname)
VEE Validation by Educational Experience, a series of professional actuarial exams
Vee Verb Common Command in belfast meaning "Look at her hole"

The highlighted one looks most likely along the lines of what we need, Dont know if this helps?

BioDoctor900

[BioDoctor900]

Plus Veer

veer 1  (vîr)
v. veered, veer·ing, veers
v.intr.
1. To turn aside from a course, direction, or purpose; swerve: "a sequence of adventures that veered between tragedy and bleak farce" (Anthony Haden-Guest). See Synonyms at swerve.
2. To shift clockwise in direction, as from north to northeast. Used of the wind.
3. Nautical To change the course of a ship by turning the stern to the wind while advancing to windward; wear ship.
v.tr.
1. To alter the direction of; turn: veered the car sharply to the left.
2. Nautical To change the course of (a ship) by turning the stern windward.
n.
A change in direction; a swerve.

veer1
vb
1. to alter direction (of); swing around
2. (intr) to change from one position, opinion, etc., to another
3. (intr) (of the wind)
a.  (Earth Sciences / Physical Geography) to change direction clockwise in the northern hemisphere and anticlockwise in the southern
b.  (Transport / Nautical Terms) Nautical to blow from a direction nearer the stern Compare haul [5]
4. (Transport / Nautical Terms) Nautical to steer (a vessel) off the wind
n
a change of course or direction

BioDoctor900

[timewomble]

I've emailed Veer Fabricators. I'll post here if I get a response.

[galacticprobe]

Waking up another hybernating topic: the label/embossing on the top-side of the Demat Lever housing (lever side). When last we saw this there was some discussion on what that upper word was as only "VEE" is directly visible: VEEL? VEER? VEET (although I don't think it was intended to remove bodily hai - or make bodily hair "dematerialise" <massive joke attempt, which if I'm hearing all of those groans, ended in an epic fail> - and if it was for removing hair, I certainly wouldn't use it!).

As I was looking back through this topic, and the pondering over what it read next to the lever handle, the bottom label (stamp? embossing? whetever one wishes to call it) says "HALT", plain enough, which means "Stop" in many languages. And looking at the top one again from the best angle that shows it, and sharpening the image a little, I think it might just say "VEEL". That's because I noticed one tiny detail; while you can't see the whole of that last letter, you can see the upright of it, and there is nothing coming off of the top of that upright like you'd find in an R (or a T... so that rules out the possibility of it saying VEET ).

So that taking into account that this confounding gizmo is using English lettering, and the letters that have nothing from the tops of their uprights, that only leaves H, I, J, K, and L. Now going by the spacing of that upright from the ends of the crossmembers in the E preceding it, we can remove the J because that upright is too close to the E to allow for the backwards curve of the bottom of the J. We can also drop the H and the K because there isn't a crossmember (or the upward angle of the K) visible near the middle of that final letter's upright.

That leaves us with I and L. So that word is either VEEI or VEEL. Hunting for translations I found that VEEL in Dutch means "Many", but I have yet to find any translation in any language for VEEI. So maybe those lever positions are "back" (towards the operator) for "Stop", and "forward" (away from the operator) for "Many", as in revolutions of a propeller? (That propeller could be for a boat, or whatever might be sucking the air out of a pressure chamber of that "bar" on the meter is for an atmospheric pressure chamber.)

So, IMHO (and I'll be happy to be proven wrong if someone else can figure out for certain what that word is - maybe the next member to visit the DWE can try and get a really good shot of that part of the Demat Lever... bring a good zoom lens so we can see that last letter!) I think we're looking at a HALT for "Stop", and a VEEL for "Many". And what complicates things is that the lever does not have any embossed label for its center position where it locks in, and one would think this position should have some sort of label for it.

Anyway, my brain hurts after all of this searching. I don't know what help this is other than to narrow down what that last letter might be, but at least it's another baby step (hopefully forward).

Dino.

[BioDoctor900]

ITS NOT HALT, ITS HAUL! And the top is Veer, I looked at a high Res image of the lever I took at the experience, and those are the two labels next to the lever

To veer and haul (Naut) to pull tight and slacken alternately.
To veer and haul (Naut) to vary the course or direction; -- said of the wind, which veers aft and hauls forward. The wind is also said to veer when it shifts with the sun.



BioDoctor900

[galacticprobe]

Thanks for that magnificent photo and the info on the housing's markings, BioDoc (but, about the "Haul" marking... you didn't need to SHOUT IT! ).

If you have any other great high-res photos of this console and that Demat Lever, I among many would greatly appreciate it. Since the DWE is packed up for the time being, there's no telling when anyone will get a look at this console in such detail again, so any photos of this calibre you have that you'd be willing to post would be a treasure for those of us who are in love with this console.

Thanks again for clearing up what was marked on that housing. (It's still odd that no markings are in the Lever's center position between "VEER" and "HAUL". Or am I the only one that thinks that?)

Dino.

[Cardinal Hordriss]

I've always thought it looked like a control from a crane cabin. A google search reveals some similar mechanisms. I'll look into it.

EDIT - Or a winch control.

[Cardinal Hordriss]

There's one in Revenge of the Slitheen as well -

[galacticprobe]

If I remember correctly, the word from Bob's Bits - who supplied many of the parts for the 2005 TARDIS console - was that he had only two of these controls and the BBC bought them both.

We know one was on the 2005 TARDIS console, and one was on the "2005 Touring (promo)" console. (The Touring console would eventually get redressed as the War Doctor's console in "The Day Of The Doctor" 50th Anniversary Special.)

And we saw one of these controls in the zeppelin in "The Age Of Steel" (Part 2 of "Rise Of The Cybermen"). So knowing that only two of these existed and gotten from Bob's Bits, I think it would be a safe bet that the one used on the (in-storage) Touring console was reused for the one on the Cybus zeppelin, and again later in 'The Sarah Jane Adventures' in the "Revenge Of The Slitheen" episodes (this time with its knobbie painted red).

So we're probably looking at the same control that was used in three places: Touring/War Doctor console, Cybus zeppelin, and whatever this Slitheen machinery was (I can't remember; it's been too long since I've seen those episodes).

Dino.

[Cardinal Hordriss]

It was a giant transformer system for fully absorbing the energy of the sun.

[galacticprobe]

Thanks for the reminder, CH!

Okay. So now we know it's a Mat/Demat Lever on two TARDIS consoles (War, and 9th/10th Doctors'), part of a Cybus Industries zeppelin control system, and a power lever(?) for a Slitheen transformer that could absorb all energy from the Sun (this one with the black knobbie on it painted red... with a note that by the time this was put back on the Touring-promo console for the console's redressing as the War Doctor's console, that knobbie had been painted black again; well, that, or the red paint had been removed from the knobbie).

Which still leaves one question...

What, in the real world, was this lever actually used for? (If we could finally put an ID on it, then we'd at least have some terminology to search with since Bob's Bits didn't know what it - and its twin - had come from.)

Dino.

[kiwidoc]

It was also featured in Tennant's last story as a (used) control on the cactus-heads' ship.   Wish I knew what it was, I still think it's lab equipment rather than a speedboat control but we've never come very close to finding it.  One day, yes, one day...

[Cardinal Hordriss]

It was also featured in Tennant's last story as a (used) control on the cactus-heads' ship.   

I'm sure that's racist lol.

Vinvocci by the way

[galacticprobe]

We know this thing (presumably the one from the Touring-promo/War Doctor console) made the rounds, landing on various pieces of machinery during Tennant's run (including that appearance in 'The Sarah Jane Adventures'), but as Glen says:

...we've never come very close to finding it.

That's the sticking point: what was this thing actually used for? If we knew that, it would make searching for it light-years easier. Like the "Helmic Regulator" wheely thing. Someone managed to ID it as a throttle/trim control for a Piston Provost airplane. Granted while that terminology made the gizmo easier to find when searching for it, it did not negate the high price tag attached to it. (Ugh.)

So if anyone stumbles across what this lever actually is (or was) used for, please post the name of it so we can have a positive ID on the control. (And considering this has "VEER" and "HAUL" on the housing's side rim by the lever to designate the lever positions, "POWER ON" and "STANDBY POWER" on the housing top by the buttons and indicator lights, and "bar" on the bottom of the meter face, like Glen said, I don't think this is from a boat throttle.)

I've been looking for this longer than this topic has been running - at least since around 2007 or 2008 when the wife said I could put a scaled-down version of this console in the TV room (another project on indefinite hold )... but I've still been looking for this lever to know what it was used for and what its proper name is, all to no avail. So if anyone recognizes it or finds out what it is, please let us know.

Dino.

[Cardinal Hordriss]

I still think it's the control for some sort of winch mechanism.