2005 tardis reference

[galacticprobe]

Well, from the floor the console's rim is roughly 5 feet or so:

(Seen here under construction - not sure how tall that guy next to the console is, but that rim is about even with his head.) Also notice in this one - something that slipped my attention until just now - that brace running around the bottom of the curve, just below the support bulkheads, isn't a ring, it's a hexagon! (Take a close look: "flats" facing the legs, "corners", erm, between the legs, so to speak.)

As for getting the curve right, trust me (and I think kiwidoc, museumdave, and BioDoctor900), it isn't easy! That said, these may help you trace the curve out a bit better:

Another of the console on its own (ignore the green line; it has the wrong curve on it where it meets the legs)...


...and another of the console with the rim installed. This time the green line is pretty close, but it doesn't show the bottom of the curve where it meets the legs. For that I'd suggest using the first photo above; it shows that tight reverse curve coming up from the inside of the leg, making the "ledge" that hexagonal support rests on. The photo immediately above does show the hexagon ring, and the reverse curve it sits on, but that green line doesn't trace it so you might have to finagle that one until you get it right (which I have yet to accomplish).

Now, back to the height of the rim - presumably you actually meant from the platform grating:

Here we have David Tennant who stands in at about 6 feet even leaning against the console, and standing pretty much straight up. The top of the rim just reaches the bottom of his butt, so if the rim was a desk that he was leaning against in the same way, it would be "roughly", depending on the desk, 29 to 30 inches high. Roughly. Using my computer desk which is 29 inches high and leaning against it myself (I'm 5' 9"), the top of my desk is a little higher than the bottom of my butt, so I'd say using Tennant as the measuring device, 29 or 30 inches to the top of the rim is a good guesstimate. If the top of that rim was three feet tall, then it would put the center of the rim just about smack in the middle of Tennant's butt, which it clearly doesn't. (So I think the 29/30-inch mark is what we should use, that is until someone can get their grubby little fingers on the actual plans, or can sneakily take a quick measure of it at the DWE without getting caught!... or already has taken a measure of that and is willing to share it with us.)

I hope this helps.

Dino.
P. S. You're still a fiend!

[hobbitdude13]

Ok then mine is too tall then. My drawings were done assuming the outermost point of the rib was 3 feet off the ground. So if I drop about 5-6 inches off of the bottom, it'll bring it down to where it's accurate.

[galacticprobe]

If you're going for an exact replica, then probably yes. If you're making a console scaled to your height, then (pardon this one) use the bottom of your butt as the guide. But it looks like you've got the room to go full scale with this build, and after all, the console height doesn't change just because the Doctor regenerates. (Take a look at the "Five Doctors" console: Peter Davison at about 6 feet tall, the same for Colin Baker, and it put the rim of that console at about their hips. Then along comes Sylvester McCoy at 5'6", and that console's rim was about up to his belly!)

Dino.

[hobbitdude13]

I'm 6' 2" so a little taller than Tennant.  If I'm within one or two inches of the "official" height, I'm ok with that.

[superrichi1a]

Just a quick question here, sorry if it's been answered before, I couldn't find any info on it! (But then again there's a lot now to sift through...) Anyone got any idea of the rough dimensions for the central column? It popped up in discussion today, and as best as I would estimate from pictures of Tennant the column itself seemed to be perhaps about 1'8" wide and the bottom of the coupling rings on the ribs about 2' wide. Am I on the money?

[kiwidoc]

I think you're about right with the column tube.  Not sure what you're referring to by coupling rings though

[superrichi1a]

Thanks Glen! By the coupling rings I meant the gold and black arrangement that the scanner swivels on, to be honest I think I probably made "coupling rings" up at some point in my own mind and never found out what a more accurate name was

[kiwidoc]

Ahh, right, that lot!  Mine is about (from memory) 85cm diameter at the widest part I think, which Google tells me is 33.46 inches...

[galacticprobe]

Just a rough guess, but if the console is about 6 feet in diameter:

using Tennant (6'0") as the measure, and adjusting the size of the console on the screen so it matches 6 inches on a ruler (1 inch = 1 foot), it makes the column cover just a nib over 1 foot in diameter (close enough to say 1 foot) - about the same as the TVM console's column cover.

The 2-foot diameter is more - appearance-wise - closer to the 2013 console, and closer to the Classic consoles' column covers.

Dino.

[superrichi1a]

I can't remember if I posted this or not, but in a DWM last year it was all but confirmed that the console was about 7 feet 4 inches (as per MD's plans). The phrasing was that Smith's 2010 console was larger than Tennant's by nearly 8 inches and it also said that the new console was a bit above 8 feet wide. So, that, I would say, puts the Tennant console in at between 7'4" and 7'6". I'm still working on my Hurt console dimensions but at far as I can tell that one is between 5'10" and 6'2" (it seems to look bigger in "Day" as opposed to it's Roadshow days, granted it's on a plinth and the Roadshow pictures aren't great for scaling) and about a foot shorter than it's bigger brother.

[kiwidoc]

Hi, fro my experience the Tenannt console is definitely larger than 6' - I found that out the hard way when I made my outer ring in one piece then found it was too small and had to cut it up...

And the cylindrical part of the central column is much larger the 1' - more like 1.5 (give or take).

Cheers, Glen

[galacticprobe]

I'm still working on my Hurt console dimensions but at far as I can tell that one is between 5'10" and 6'2" (it seems to look bigger in "Day" as opposed to it's Roadshow days, granted it's on a plinth and the Roadshow pictures aren't great for scaling) and about a foot shorter than it's bigger brother.

This might help with the scaling of the John Hurt War Doctor console:

First, the 2005 console. Notice where the telephone is mounted - on the metal mesh panel - and how its size compares to the panel and the rib next to it;


Next is a shot of the War Doctor Console (as the Touring Console). Notice the phone mounted on a rib, and how its size compares to that rib and the panel next to it;


Another shot of the War Doctor Console in its Touring Console days. This one shows a wider view of the phone and rib and panel. We know the size of the phone. So from that, it should be easy to extrapolate the size of the panels and ribs from there. Then the size of the console should be easy to figure out. (Also notice in that last photo that the center "dials" area of the console looks huge compared to its counterpart on the 2005 TARDIS console.)

Helpful? (Hopefully at least not adding to the confusion of how large the War Doctor console is.)

Dino.

[kiwidoc]

The 'keyboard' ( I think it's some sort of  control/vision mixing desk from TV production) is also identical to the one on the 9/10 console (often impediment with a mallet, leading to rapid loss of switches), and you'll see that on the 9/10 console it sits in a similar place but with space for the p45 compass beside it on one side and a little space on the other instead of filling the entire rim it does on this one.  I think that means that the rim is approximately 30cm/12" shorter than on the 9/10 console.    Just throwing that out there, possibly not all that helpful... 

Measuring from known items like the phone (if you can source one), the compass or other components on both consoles is a good way of figuring stuff out though.

[galacticprobe]

The phone at its base is 7 7/8th inches long, 4 1/4th inches (at the lower end, where the receiver hangs down) and 3 3/8th inches at the upper end (where the earpiece rests). And that upper end is 3 inches tall; the lower end is angled out and back in and difficult to measure. The receiver, from where the wire plugs into it to the where the earpiece turns down is 6 inches long.

Yes; I have one of those phones, only mine has a black body. And it works just fine! We used it often enough when talking to the people at Uni of Bath when trying to get The Evil One's things straightened out for her semester there in the spring of 2013. (Thank heavens we had an International Calling Plan or we'd be even more in the poorhouse!)

Dino.

[shawsy09]

From the DW Youtube page:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFWA4lHQncs