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The Definitive Pertwee/Baker Time Rotor Plans

Started by karsthotep, May 14, 2012, 05:05 pm

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warmcanofcoke

why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

lespaceplie

May 17, 2012, 03:05 am #16 Last Edit: Jul 03, 2019, 04:47 am by warmcanofcoke
From what I can tell from studying the proportions in photos and the dimensions we're certain of, it would seem that the rotor tubes are spaced apart a bit more. I doubt any of it is metric - not even the acrylic parts in the 70s. A plinth diameter of 18 inches is a must if everything else is close in this diagram. The acrylic parts that the original lighting is attached to needs to be added as well as the alternate plates and caps, but this plan is consistent through each refresh of the rotor (except for the frosted panels).

rotortop1.jpg

warmcanofcoke

why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

galacticprobe

May 17, 2012, 06:06 am #18 Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 06:06 am by galacticprobe
Lespaceplie, I noticed you caught those little clear pieces on the mirrored plinth top that are just off of the corners(?) of the cylinders. Good eyes! I had never noticed them before. But after seeing them on your diagram I went back to look and did see them on both the (sickly) "Horns of Nimon" and the Pertwee era rotors.

Dino.
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DarthMoose74

Nice thread! The measurements are just about the same with what i came up with in January. Here is a pic of my template from back then, I will take what i have done apart and take a better pic later. I have 18 for the inner disk and 22.5 for the outer. Everything lines up on center, even the 4 inch tubes on the big triangle points.

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karsthotep

Hey guys, this is great and Lespaceplie your plan details are 2nd to none thanks for helping out with this.  I concur with everything said here so far. Darthmoose,  that is a great start to the rotor and great reference as well. 

  Lespaceplie, can you do a side shot as well as the top down for added detail? 

guys this is great and thanks for helping pull this thread together.   


Karsten
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Rassilons Rod

May 17, 2012, 12:08 pm #21 Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 12:09 pm by rassilonsrod
That diagram is Sexy :) (capitalisation intentional ;))

One question. What is the thickness of the parts used? I am assuming that tube thickness and sheet thickness are consistent?
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karsthotep

That is a good question, that is information I don't have.  Most of what other people have used is 1/8" acrylic sheets, and 1/8 inch thick tubes.  The Top Rotor Disc for the enclosure because it is screwed in place I would imagine would have to be 1/4" or 1/2" thick Acrylic, more then likely 1/4", the arcs at the base of the tubes are the only measurement that I do know and those are 1/2" thick perspex
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Rassilons Rod

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The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
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And the press get fed the scapegoats,
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karsthotep

  Oh and I just want to throw this out there.  All of the measurements that I know or provided have been from a close personal friend.  My only intent on this thread is to create a 95% accurate set of Rotor plans "Generic" plans if you will,  that benefits everyone, thats it.   I take zero credit for any of this. 
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karsthotep

Quote from: rassilonsrod on May 17, 2012, 02:00 pm
I'm going to take a wild stab and say that the 9" green strip at the top is 1" high. Does that sound right? :)


I believe they are yes, when I built my crappy hand cut acrylic rotor (bleahhh), mine were 1" high, which I think is accurate for the Baker version. For the Pertwee version they look much shorter and I would hazard to guess that they are 3/4" and were increased for Bakers'  I think that the 1" would work for both and is a much more aesthetically pleasing look..my opinion only of course. 

Karst
I want notes, lists and answers by the time I finish this here Juicy-a-Box! WARNING: I am Thirst-ay! And it is Fruit Punch! And it is Delicious!"

Rassilons Rod

May 17, 2012, 03:29 pm #26 Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 08:21 pm by rassilonsrod
Quote from: karsthotep on May 17, 2012, 02:03 pm
Quote from: rassilonsrod on May 17, 2012, 02:00 pm
I'm going to take a wild stab and say that the 9" green strip at the top is 1" high. Does that sound right? :)


I believe they are yes, when I built my crappy hand cut acrylic rotor (bleahhh), mine were 1" high, which I think is accurate for the Baker version. For the Pertwee version they look much shorter and I would hazard to guess that they are 3/4" and were increased for Bakers'  I think that the 1" would work for both and is a much more aesthetically pleasing look..my opinion only of course.  

Karst


Dagnamit! I was too slow!! I deleted my question because I then saw your post further up...

But thanks for the confirmation :)


And for the record, hand built or no (is there any other way???) Your rotor is NOT crappy, it's awesome!
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

lespaceplie

2 things to add here. First, the Pertwee, Baker and Davison rotor is (probably) the same unit redressed several times. Second, you will find that the rotor tubes are spaced apart more than 4 inches. The image here has already appeared in the forum elsewhere, but it pretty much confirms the general proportions of things in the last state of this time rotor.

Finaldavisoncolumn.jpg

karsthotep

is that already taken into account in your plans or do you need to extrapolate out to get the proportion correct? 
I want notes, lists and answers by the time I finish this here Juicy-a-Box! WARNING: I am Thirst-ay! And it is Fruit Punch! And it is Delicious!"

lespaceplie

It is addressed in my diagram. The only part that might be iffy is center triangle post. That might be a little smaller than 2" - maybe 1.75" as has been suggested. I'll produce another view but not until next week.