Dematerialisation Circuit

[tony farrell]

I must say Nathan, I've never thought of you as the 'house elf'! Nor myself as a 'Master' either (though my 'avatar thingy' might suggest otherwise)! 

T

[warmcanofcoke]

Colony in Space

[galacticprobe]

Nate, these are absolutely fabulous! Thank you so much for posting them! There is so much detail coming through in these. It looks like there are even more wire thingies connecting the discs than previously thought.



Just on this disc along I can see four wire-like connections. If there's another "curly" that we can't see lurking on the far side of that red wire, then that would make five wires. Unless, of course, these wire connections are intended to be asymmetrical and that red wire is on the far side where a curly would be.

Looking at the "head-on" wires it could very well be that the components of this are indeed asymmetrical, the frontmost being a curly (shown above as #1), behind that a wire with a colored bead (shown as #2), to the "left" side (as viewed) of the bead a second curly (shown as #3), and to the right of the bead the red wire (shown as #4).

Thoughts on this one?

Dino.

[warmcanofcoke]

You are very welcome Dino.

I always thought it was three sets of 3 curly, 1 bead, and 1 wire connecting one disk to another. But If more images show up with more detail, It would be cool.

I'm still looking for the perfect green tube to make the insulators on the underside to the disks for my build.
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=4404

Your starter for ten

This is the longest count to ten ever.

[Davros Skaro]

Good one Dino, now look down a bit on the same round disc, there are another 3 or 4 wires there, so it may be the same for the other side, just look at the disc on the opposite side, you can see them. Boy they really push the eyes & mind for detail. It looks like there may be 10 - 12 wires per disc!!!! 

Chris.

[galacticprobe]

Boy they really push the eyes & mind for detail.

Definitely no argument there! They really wanted this thing to look "alien", and they succeeded.

It looks like there may be 10 - 12 wires per disc!!!!  

Chris, I think it's more like 12 - 15, all told.

Going by the asymmetrical possibility, you've got 4 wires connecting each disc to the next. So one disc connected to the other three, with 4 wires each, make 12 wires on one disc (2 curlies, 1 beaded, 1 red wire = 4 wires x 3 discs = 12).

Taking the symmetrical possibility you've got 5 wires connecting each disc for a total of 15 (3 curlies, 1 beaded, 1 red wire = 5 wires x 3 discs = 15).

I'm still looking for the perfect green tube to make the insulators on the underside to the disks for my build.
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=4404

Nate, have you tried looking in pet supply stores, specifically in the fish tank area? They've got some clear plastic tubes of various sizes that might work. You'd just need to paint them with some Transparent Green paint, which comes in spray cans or standard modeller's-sized water-based jars.

If you'd rather just have the green tube and not have to worry about painting it (or the paint flaking off at some point), you could take a look at Tap Plastics (or that other site posted in another thread; I'd have to look for that one to link to). I know Tap Plastics has raised their prices and the larger tubes are now out of reach of most of our wallets, but I their smaller clear acrylic tubes are still within reason (1" diameter, at 3' lengths, is just over $8 US; you'll get two for that because they sell in 6' lengths, but having it come in two cut sections avoids the oversize shipping charges).

Unfortunately you'd have to paint those with the transparent green as well, so maybe a stop at a pet fish supply store would be worth a try. Tap Plastics does have nice green tubes, but unfortunately the smallest they have is 4" diameter, and with the 6' length, even cut into 3' lengths, is really expensive.

Fish tank supplies, and transparent green paint might be the answer.

I hope some of this is helpful.

Dino.

[troughtonstrousers]

[galacticprobe]

Excellent image, TT! One caveat, though, is that this is one of Mooncrest Model's outstanding prop replicas (available in kit or completed build form from their web site). I know that Mooncrest goes through painstaking lengths to turn out the most screen-accurate replicas they can, but even so when you compare this one to the actual prop in the screen grabs, you can see there are some differences between the two.

The most notable difference is the asymmetry of the "curlies" as seen in warmcanofcoke's screen grabs from "Colony In Space", whereas Mooncrest's replica has symmetrical "curlies". Even the images posted here http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=2412.msg24347#msg24347 show an asymmetrical configuration in the curly wires.

That said, we do know there were two of these props built, with both being seen on screen at the same time in "Terror Of The Autons" (in the image warmcanofcoke's posted up thread), so maybe one of the props was asymmetrical in its curly wires, and one was symmetrical like Mooncrest's.

That's the trouble when you have more than one of a prop made; they're never identical for some reason. (And going back to the Pertwee era, I'm sure that none of the people who built the Demat Circuit props ever imagined that, about 45 or so years on, people like us with Blu-ray DVDs and the player's PAUSE button would be scrutinizing every detail of that little gizmo!)

Dino.

[troughtonstrousers]

Yes mooncrest and it's adorable

[karsthotep]

I have a mooncrest and its awesome,  that being said there are inaccuracies, I would say its about 5-10% too large and its missing bead/wire detail, but as a place holder for a more accurate one its an awesome piece.  I bought mine pre-assembled. 

[Terrasolo]

I have to agree with Karsten. I love the Mooncrest one but I know a couple of ways I'd make it more accurate, scale being the biggest one.

[karsthotep]

is it possible to extrapolate out its measurements from this picture as we know that the housing is 22 inches in diameter and its basically sitting right in the center in that shot.  if this has been done in another thread let me know.  I am searching around for it as well.

[karsthotep]

I am giving this thread a little bump to the top, to see if I could get a hand from some of our resident mathematician's and see if extrapolation is possible since we know the top is 22 inches, or is the angle prohibitive of that?

[galacticprobe]

Well, the widest points on the top is still going to be 22 inches, no matter the angle. (That's the nice thing about round things; take a dinner plate, measure it straight on; then measure it when looking at it from table level and you'll get the same measurement.)

So the top of the column in this photo is still 22 inches at the widest points. Now the top disc on the Demat Circuit is almost flat on, but even so that is still a round thing, so even at different angles the widest point is still going to be the same (i.e. if it's 1.5 inches straight on and looking round, it's still going to be 1.5 inches looking at it almost edge on, as we have it here).

Using the column's top as the reference, mark it out into 22 equal segments, which will make each segment 1 inch. From there you should be able to apply the inch scale to the Demat Circuit. (And breaking the 1-inch segment into smaller ones - 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, etc. -  should be easy for fine tuning.)

I hope this makes sense, and helps a little.

Dino.

[karsthotep]

Ok, I am tracking what you are saying,  I haven't done anything like this before so should this be done in paint or other?