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2010 Tardis Interior Materialization Lever

Started by cavamatt2, Sep 12, 2010, 07:52 am

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galacticprobe

Sep 18, 2010, 04:10 am #15 Last Edit: Sep 19, 2010, 02:32 pm by Scarfwearer
Quote from: type 83 on Sep 17, 2010, 06:30 am

'Tis from the newest adventure game my friend (not written but probably overseen by the Moff).



Hmmm... something from a video game, or something from an authorized book showing the Mat/Demat levers that are the same as those shown in the paper prints, in photos taken from the actual set, shown in an earlier post showing controls of this console (http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=906.60 - scroll down the page and you'll see the papers - twice, one slightly more clear than the other - labelling the levers)...

Sorry, but I'm inclined to go with the book and the papers and stick with my guns on this one. It looks like the Mat/Demat levers are those red-handled ones to the right of the typewriter panel.

Anyone else have "official" proof to the contrary?

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

DoctorWho8

The TARDIS Tour with Ed Thomas.  I'm trying to find the one from the Confidential with Matt Smith where they go over the controls.

Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

Rassilons Rod

I like the way they got rid of that awful fourth wall in that game :)
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

Scarfwearer

So which lever is it that cavamatt is trying to build here...?

Crispin

galacticprobe

Sep 19, 2010, 05:58 pm #19 Last Edit: Sep 19, 2010, 06:49 pm by galacticprobe
Quote from: Scarfwearer on Sep 18, 2010, 08:40 am
So which lever is it that cavamatt is trying to build here...?

Crispin



Quick recap here:

His original question was for the Mat/Demat lever(s):
Quote from: cavamatt2 on Sep 12, 2010, 07:52 am
Does anybody know how to build the new 2010 Materialization/Dematerialization Lever on the new console


And from there the question came forth as to which lever(s) that was:
Quote from: atomsintime on Sep 12, 2010, 07:53 am
Which one's that again?


And the speculation of those levers with the lights across them:
Quote from: DoctorWho8 on Sep 12, 2010, 06:19 pm
I think he means the cruise ship duel lever control with the lights on the left and right side of the mechanism. Look for a boat or ship speed control.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff


Once I pointed out which levers were for Mat/Demat according to "THE TARDIS HANDBOOK" by Steve Tribe, which agrees with an earlier post of some on-set photos of the console, which included a paper with instructions for each console panel (which are exactly what's in the book), the question of levers grew legs.

So, if cavamatt is looking for the Mat/Demat levers, then he should build the red-handled ones. If he's looking to build what boredomino believes are the "thrust" (or power) levers (and unlabelled on the paper and in the "HANDBOOK"), then he should go for those levers with the lights on them.

And for DoctorWho8: I found one of the Confidential videos you mentioned, where Matt Smith goes over the console with Ed Thomas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcY0q0UxUz8&NR=1), but in that vid the only levers they really cover are the Time Forward/Backward levers: the ones with the small black knobs on them that are next to the big levers with the lights, and one of the Quantum Foam Manipulators, which have a crank wheel that actually moves the Manipulators up and down along the console. They talked about having many more moving parts on this console, and showed the "instructional" paper I mentioned, but at least in that vid they never mentioned which levers were the Mat/Demat. So please let us know if you find another Confidential that shows more of the console and controls. So far I'm not finding any others.

However, since Ed Thomas drew up the instruction paper he gave to Matt Smith showing which control is which, and you can see (again from an earlier post) that those controls in the paper agree exactly with what is in "THE TARDIS HANDBOOK", the red-handled levers to the right of the typewriter panel are the Mat/Demat controls.

And now for some fun... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqUueTl7AEY&feature=related

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

Scarfwearer

Thanks Dino, I was beginning to lose the plot....  :o

Crispin

galacticprobe

Quote from: Scarfwearer on Sep 19, 2010, 07:11 pm
Thanks Dino, I was beginning to lose the plot....  :o

Crispin



My pleasure, Crispin. (I actually do try to help.)

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

cavamatt2

can i buy one or would i have to make it? I f i have to make it can someone help me with how to make one that has lights which work

hb88banzai

Sep 20, 2010, 10:26 pm #23 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2010, 10:31 pm by hb88banzai
Hmmmm - an Italian throttle control at that.

TARDIS Throttle Side Text.JPG

Avanti = Forward

Indietro = Back

boredomino

Can I just point out that the red ones are "Dematerialise/Materialise Fabrication". Note the Fabrication part.

We know the Fabrication panel makes things like screwdrivers. Maybe, to make a bigger thing, it has to actually materialise it into the control room?



Not to mention the twin light up levers are actually used as the demat levers in the show. That enough evidence for you, person-who-was-asking-above-whose-name-I-can't-remember? :p

action_mat

Jan 02, 2011, 12:34 am #25 Last Edit: Jan 02, 2011, 12:39 am by action_mat
They're called 'morse controls'.  Morse is a brand name, but that's how they're known (like 'hoover' and sellotape')  New, you'd be looking at about £200 GBP.  Anything marine is expensive, although anyone living near the coast or an inland waterway could pick up an old or broken set at a boat jumble.  

davidnagel

Jul 16, 2011, 01:02 pm #26 Last Edit: Jul 16, 2011, 01:03 pm by davidnagel
I just realised this lever had a bar attached to make the dual handles one piece

Refer to the earlier images in this thread, then look at the second image of this post;
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=2054.msg29854#msg29854
Argh the silly link won't include the hashtag for the post itself :(
Regards
David

Scarfwearer

Jul 16, 2011, 02:10 pm #27 Last Edit: Jul 16, 2011, 04:15 pm by Scarfwearer
Oops, I'll see if I can fix that... (time goes by...) ... okay - fixed. :)
Let me know if you spot any other issues.

Crispin

robhowdle

I am actually building one of these. I'm an A* electronics student and as long as you have an idea of how to build your case, all the circuit is is a potentiometer or two and a few Op-Amps. I will upload my circuit diagram to this tonight as it is now complete. I also have the circuit wizard file which I am happy to share between who I hope to be my new friends.

:) Rob
You make the whole of time and space your back yard and what do you have, a back yard... I can't see it anymore but you can, and when you see it I see it - Matt Smith, 11th Doctor

galacticprobe

Dec 06, 2011, 06:52 am #29 Last Edit: Dec 06, 2011, 06:54 am by galacticprobe
As a retired US Coast Guard Electronics Technician (ET - and there is double meaning in that ;)), I can also recommend something called a "wafer switch". It will do the same thing as the potentiometer (we called them "pots" for short). The biggest difference is that the wafer switch is less likely to slide under the weight of the levers as each switch position "clicks" into place. Therefore it will also provide that "ratcheting" sound when the lever is moved from the landing to take-off positions and back.

The drawback of the wafer switch is a lot more wiring is required to get the same FX that the pot will create with only a few wires and its circuit (mechanical FX, wafer switch; electronic FX, pot and circuit). That said, what you could do is use the pot to get the lighting FX, and combine it with an unwired wafer switch just to get the ratcheting sound (and to keep the lever locked in position as mentioned above).

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"