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Started by mordrogyn, Apr 12, 2010, 09:13 pm

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mordrogyn

Well after a little poking around under the heading of "colored wood stains" (pardon my lazy Americanized spelling, I promise I still sound very much from the north when you hear me talk lol) I came across this:

http://www.minwax.com/products/wood_stains/water_based_wood_stain.html#Colors


Now if anyone would care to show the actual color we could be rocking and rolling.... figuratively speaking.
The more I see the new TARDIS the more I like it, and may actually wind up building it when I eventually restart *sob*

Though I am kind of curious to see what hybrid would look like, say a season 18 box build in wood and then stained like the new NST....
OOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo  ;)
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DoctorWho8

Purple mentioned in his blog it's actually automotive spray paint they used on the Series 5 props.  The cellulose and non-cellulose parts of the wood absorb the paint differently, thus making the wood grain pronounced, but not textured.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

lorisarvendu

Quote from: DoctorWho8 on Apr 13, 2010, 04:11 am
Purple mentioned in his blog it's actually automotive spray paint they used on the Series 5 props.  The cellulose and non-cellulose parts of the wood absorb the paint differently, thus making the wood grain pronounced, but not textured.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff


It seems to have a kind of "satin" finish.  Halfway between gloss and the usual flat matt.  Unfortunately it now means that my model (based on grainy set photos) is now somewhat inaccurate!  Serve me right for rushing I guess.   :)


mordrogyn

Automotive paint eh? interesting... and the name of the color? did he mention that?
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geminitimelord

Quote from: DoctorWho8 on Apr 13, 2010, 04:11 am
Purple mentioned in his blog it's actually automotive spray paint they used on the Series 5 props.  The cellulose and non-cellulose parts of the wood absorb the paint differently, thus making the wood grain pronounced, but not textured.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff


Great Find Bill! Wow that makes sense. I was almost positive it was some form of coloured stain. They also must have used some high quality lumber to get that grain. I wonder if they used OAK? Either way this was a precision build as there seems to be no evidence of any wood putty being used. The joins are all PERFECT.

DoctorWho8

Apr 13, 2010, 03:21 pm #5 Last Edit: Apr 13, 2010, 03:28 pm by DoctorWho8
Quote from: mordrogyn on Apr 13, 2010, 12:33 pm
Automotive paint eh? interesting... and the name of the color? did he mention that?

Afraid not.  He wasn't involved in the making of the props, but at the Toys R Us even last week, he got up close and personal and examined the paint job.

And as I type, I looked at his blog, and viola!  He did a test strip with auto paint and here's his result.
Left is the test, right is from the screen prop.
2010tardispaintapp.jpg
http://purpleblancmange.wordpress.com/
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

DoctorWho8

Quote from: geminitimelord on Apr 13, 2010, 01:15 pmGreat Find Bill! Wow that makes sense. I was almost positive it was some form of coloured stain. They also must have used some high quality lumber to get that grain. I wonder if they used OAK? Either way this was a precision build as there seems to be no evidence of any wood putty being used. The joins are all PERFECT.


My general understand is that it's the same kind of timber stock the previous props were made of.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

karsthotep

Does anyone know what color was used for the 2010 TARDIS?

Karsten
I want notes, lists and answers by the time I finish this here Juicy-a-Box! WARNING: I am Thirst-ay! And it is Fruit Punch! And it is Delicious!"

deck5

Looks like clear pine, or similar. 

karsthotep

Quote from: deck5 on Apr 13, 2010, 05:22 pm
Looks like clear pine, or similar. 


Is clear Pine the name of that color of Blue?  Would anyone be able to get the color code UK side?
I want notes, lists and answers by the time I finish this here Juicy-a-Box! WARNING: I am Thirst-ay! And it is Fruit Punch! And it is Delicious!"

mordrogyn

It wouldn't be hard to make it look right out of regular lumber... you'd just have to be extra picky when selecting your peices.
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deck5

Quote from: karsthotep on Apr 13, 2010, 06:02 pm
Quote from: deck5 on Apr 13, 2010, 05:22 pm
Looks like clear pine, or similar. 


Is clear Pine the name of that color of Blue?  Would anyone be able to get the color code UK side?


No -- I mean to say, the underlying timber appears to be, from its grain, what is called 'clear pine', which means wood from pine trees, without any knots in it (hence 'clear').

philipw

Preaparing for my 2010 build, I'm pretty much scouring the site since having joined so that I can hopefully avoid asking any questions that I should be able to find the answer to myself.

After lookin at these photos, I think I have some info on the timber used to make this tardis.

I have a lot of woodworking experience and I'd say this has the open grain structure found in common white oak, both when the grain is shown rift and flat sawn in the build.

When you see the generally long and straight parallel lines of grain that's an example of rift sawn grain that's very common to oak. The pores of the wood are actually tiny holes, unlike you'd find in pine and many other species, though common also in mahogany. These holes are the reason it takes a lot of time to finish oak furniture well (because you have to fill up those holes first with many coats of finish before first), and many people actually fill the holes before applying finish. It's also probably the reason the grain stands out so well when the blue is applied. I've never painted oak before but that's my guess.

The flat sawn boards, which are the most common, are the ones where the grain is kind of like cathedrals or mountain tops showing and are quite curvy generally.

There's also quarter sawn oak, which is the most prized by furniture makers, but I don't see any of that on the tardis.

deck5

Quote from: philipw on Jun 02, 2010, 07:30 pm
I have a lot of woodworking experience and I'd say this has the open grain structure found in common white oak, both when the grain is shown rift and flat sawn in the build.


Could be.  I continue to vote for white pine -- half the weight, similar grain, easier to work.

Doctor Iz

I did receive a small pot of Blue paint from a friend overseas  ;D ;D.  It looks to be spot on to me... ;) It is definitely paint and not a stain... Just wanted to put that out there....
Any thoughts?  I am slowly preparing for a 2010 NST build in the near future.   Cheers, Jon

Quote from: Doctor Iz on Jun 05, 2010, 10:27 pm
Got a special pot of paint today....

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