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The would-have-been Season 27 console?

Started by exilea, May 22, 2009, 04:09 am

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Rassilons Rod

Slightly inspired by our own Mr Rob Semenoff, I think. Substituting round for angular.
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

lofiscifi

Quote from: warmcanofcoke on Jul 07, 2017, 08:27 pm
Quote from: Vale on May 14, 2017, 11:08 pm
So I'm changing my mind. I think this design by Matt Savage is brilliant:

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I was looking all over for this image. It's similarity is striking.


Oh, how I wish they would do roundels properly!! :) Clara's Type 40-ish and the AISAT replica looks SO good under decent studio lighting conditions and modern production values. Can we assume the TARDIS will also 'regenerate' along with the showrunner and lead? If so, I'd love to see something like this concept.

galacticprobe

Jul 08, 2017, 05:33 am #47 Last Edit: Jul 08, 2017, 05:33 am by galacticprobe
Quote from: lofiscifi on Jul 07, 2017, 09:54 pm
...I'd love to see something like this concept.


This still reminds me of something from my childhood that I can't quite put my finger on! It's a fond memory so I like this. However the console needs a proper plinth under it - something so the Doctor can pop open a panel and tinker a bit as needed.

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

Cardinal Hordriss

I like that concept but it could do with a more lived in look. Matt Smith's second console room was good but there was all that space not being used for anything. I prefer something more lived in like Capaldi's version. Or even just a few furniture and decorative items like in the original Hartnell console room.
I speak to you from the final days of Gallifrey. I am the past you have forgotten. You are the future I will not live to see...

fivefingeredstyre

thats how I felt about about the various console rooms across the years. The Capaldi variant works for me as it seems lived in. The TARDIS is the Doctor's home, people collect furniture and bric-a-brac over the years and it shows in their homes.

galacticprobe

Jul 09, 2017, 05:54 am #50 Last Edit: Jul 09, 2017, 05:57 am by galacticprobe
Quote from: fivefingeredstyre on Jul 08, 2017, 12:33 pm
...people collect furniture and bric-a-brac over the years and it shows in their homes.


You haven't seen my mum's home - sterile as an operating theater! Still, this concept above could do nicely with some of those ergonomic reclined lounge chairs/beds fitted against those curved walls at the base of the lower level roundel walls. Set them in, just a couple to a wall, under the bottom roundel rows.

I'd love to see a larger high res version of this image. Maybe then it would trigger the memory that I can't seem to pull out of my head!

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

Angelus Lupus

Quote from: Cardinal Hordriss on Jul 08, 2017, 11:56 am
I like that concept but it could do with a more lived in look. Matt Smith's second console room was good but there was all that space not being used for anything. I prefer something more lived in like Capaldi's version. Or even just a few furniture and decorative items like in the original Hartnell console room.

This is why the 1st Doctor's console worked well: There's a futuristic, gleaming white room with a high-tech console in the middle... but also antique chairs and knick-knacks. Some of the later rooms sort of had this, but there was only really the hatstand in most of them. McGann's spacious room really had a lived-in look, and the battered seats of the 2005 room had the same effect. basically, it's incongruity of the Timelord technology plus the accumulated mementos of time-travel.
If you've ever seen The Legends of Tomorrow (with Arthur Darvil as a 'Time Master') there's a similar thing with a office/seating-area alcove just off the main flight deck.
A mixed-up non-conformist, trying to fit in.

lofiscifi

Quote from: fivefingeredstyre on Jul 08, 2017, 12:33 pm
thats how I felt about about the various console rooms across the years. The Capaldi variant works for me as it seems lived in. The TARDIS is the Doctor's home, people collect furniture and bric-a-brac over the years and it shows in their homes.


Although the McGann interior seemed to amplify that notion of 'well-travelled' with stuff all over the shop, there seemed to be a distinct lack of old tat in the TARDIS, post-Hartnell... Nice to see that back for Capaldi. I do like the juxtaposition of alien/futuristic tech alongside 'antique' furniture.

13drwho

This is basically the Doctor's house. Given his personality I very much doubt the console room would be so sterile. It's a cool design, but a bit too Star Trek. I agree that as a time traveler he would have all kinds of things from the past and the future in his TARDIS.

I think in the classic show it really came down to money. In the first Doctor's TARDIS the console room had a bank of computers on one wall (which included the fault locator), miscellaneous furniture and mementos. Latter in the series they simplified the console room, probably for monetary reasons. We really only see furniture in the console room when it's needed for a specific story.

I agree that the TV Movie and the Smith/Capaldi console room seem more like what I would expect given the Doctor's personality.

Rassilons Rod

I think it'd be fine with the addition of some furniture/ mementos.  To my mind that's the only thing lacking .

The reason it was simplified was more because the original one took up so much floor space in the studio. :)
In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

Cardinal Hordriss

I always thought I'd use the deep roundels for storing books.

I'm not sure the later lack of gear would be a budget thing, the BBC even then was famous for its historical and costume dramas, they would have access to any amount of props for set dressing. I think it's more likely they either deliberately chose not to because that's the look they preferred or more likely they just couldn't be bothered.
I speak to you from the final days of Gallifrey. I am the past you have forgotten. You are the future I will not live to see...

galacticprobe

Jul 12, 2017, 06:39 am #56 Last Edit: Jul 12, 2017, 06:39 am by galacticprobe
Also remember that back then 'Who' shared a studio with other productions and the console room set had to be struck after each recording session in it was finished. So having that extra furniture in it for set dressing meant more things that had to he returned whence they came, and then had to be brought back again for the next recording session. So without the extra set dressing, they only had to break down the walls and console to clear the studio, and then that was all they had to put up again. Less set dressing, less work.

That's not to say the people that handled the sets were lazy, but they were probably pressed for time, and the time they would have used to run some period chairs and the like back to where they were needed (or storage), was probably needed on other sets for other productions.

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

warmcanofcoke

Aug 04, 2017, 11:34 am #57 Last Edit: Aug 04, 2017, 11:35 am by warmcanofcoke
Quote from: lofiscifi on Jul 05, 2017, 07:58 pm
Possibly. Like I say, I'm not 100% certain however, if it's going to be anywhere, it'll be on 'Endgame' feature (from the Survival DVD)... No idea if both R1 and R2 share the same features, mind. You'd think so, but never say never.


Survival DVD disc 2 extra: Endgame 40 minutes in.

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I hope we find other videos in the future.
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

Angelus Lupus

Quote from: warmcanofcoke on Aug 04, 2017, 11:34 am
Survival DVD disc 2 extra: Endgame 40 minutes in.
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Not seen this sketch before, but I like it! The black edging almost looks like safety padding... which could be handy, given how often The Doctor (et. al.) are thrown around/across the console!
A mixed-up non-conformist, trying to fit in.

lofiscifi

Feb 20, 2019, 03:02 pm #59 Last Edit: Feb 20, 2019, 03:04 pm by lofiscifi
Was digging around some old files and found this from my days working on DWM ... nothing new to uncover, but a bit more detail (especially on the roundels which always appeared to be relatively 'flat' on other images).

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