Barry Newbery's design as realised by The BBC scenery dept. by MBH

[Rassilons Rod]

Dash me optics!

Sorry buddy! I thought I was seeing square cuts round the quarter rounds.

[timerotor]

AH I see, oh you noticed that did you
I see what you're getting at now.
yes you're seeing something which isn't noticeable to the eye, they're slightly softer than they appear in that photo, but are very close to the structure and unnoticeable as you look at the thing.
Its very fine detail.
so to answer your question. Yes I did this because I believe the originals were indeed done as I have done.
you can just about make this out  at the very front corner of the black and white photograph I posted previously. ( the right hand of the box as you would look at it from the front. It has a shadow which is showing similar ill-fitting around d the quadrant. its slightly rough cut, and not beautifully done around the quadrant. It's just a matter of personal preference, construction detail and the finish of the piece.
I'm making something which is representative of what was actually used on screen - warts and all. (maybe with the acceptation of the tatty window repair to the front.)

[Scarfwearer]

This is a splendid build Mark - I think you've really captured the likeness of it,
and very cool that it has some original bits as well.

[timerotor]

Oh Scarfwearer   you are too too kind, and I would like to say, SIR you are the master.
I have to say that yours is every single bit as amazing and gorgeous. (and probably far better craftsmanship.)
TBH I have only now just seen your Newbery, I had no idea you'd made one.

But I am pleased to say that they look exactly the same!

sincerely, thank you, I return the compliment.
Mark

[Scarfwearer]

Aw >blush< - fortunately for me the camera is very forgiving.

I like your new beard, BTW!

[tony farrell]

Twins! Each with their own intentional idiosyncrasies. Not identical but twins!

A bit like these really - one of which Mark restored (guess which, haha!  ):



Twins! Each with their own unintentional idiosyncrasies. Not identical but twins!

Both your builds are superb! (For some reason I can hear the late - great - Kenneth Williams' "Ooh, Matron!"    Possibly a joke for our British members ("Ooh, Matron!")! Erm, I'm so sorry! {pause} Clears throat... Normal service will be resumed...) 

No, seriously these are brilliant builds. Thank you.

T

(P.S., Mark Barton Hill Esquire, I threatened this a month ago - expect an incoming message!)

[fivefingeredstyre]

Every time I see the auction photos, I always wince a bit.  Usually, when you seen historic items up for auction, the curator is wearing white cotton gloves and handling the item very carefully.  But not this.  Photographer:  "Great, Now let's do one with you *sitting* on the one-of-a-kind irreplaceable historic model."

I think I would have let her off, just this once...

[Rassilons Rod]

I love it when you slip in a previously unseen photo! (Oooooh! Matron!) 

[timerotor]

So in an attempt to bring my build thread back to me and by build guys!
Here is my reference photo of the back.

It wasn't always like this you know. different support structures across the back at different times.
interesting to note that the corner posts are exactly as I thought and made only as flats - rather than integral structural posts. After all it is false scenery & not real police box
MBH

[superrichi1a]

Never seen that angle on the Newbery before, quite refreshing. Looking fantastic as ever.
I must say, before the new Newbery builds going on currently, I never would have seen myself as a Newbery lover. I always overlooked it in favour of the TYJ. Not anymore! Really starting to love this box and very excited to see your facsimile completed

[timerotor]

I would say i felt the same.
I know I always had a latent love, a sort or dormant desire for this because I always loved its yellow windows and the slim version of  the recesses. I always loved the black and white signage too.
But just like you, I originally preferred the TYJ and obviously fell head over heals with it both as a child and as a professional.
But. for some reason. I started to get obsessed with the Newberry after I discovered I had windows from it... it just ignited my passion. et voila!
thanks for your encouragement. i would invite anyone who's interested to come see it for themselves. And the SHADA console & studio set too! I could do with some new friends lol
best to all.
Mark

[tony farrell]

Here is my reference photo of the back.

Interesting to note that the corner posts are exactly as I thought and made only as flats - rather than integral structural posts. After all it is false scenery & not real police box
MBH

Goodness, I've not seen that photo before. The only one I've ever seen of the back of the Newbery Box is from Horror of Fang Rock and isn't at all clear just how little of the rear corner posts were actually built:



(I must be slipping! )

So, at least you've proved what I suspected - thank you Mark!



I drew this about two & a half years ago and, at least, it looks like I got the back right!

A couple of posts ago, you replied to Marc/Rassilonsrod about the corner posts' inside quadrants continuing up the structure behind the sign-boxes. I think this is a better copy of the picture you used and might therefore better serve to illustrate your point:



This also shows the same thing but also shows the bolt heads used to secure the side panels to the corner-posts (not to mention just how badly aligned the left-hand window frame was!):



Hopefully this comment is helpful in that it might help future readers (or readers who are - perhaps - less familiar with this version) see how the original Newbery Box was built and therefore just how close/accurate and brilliant your build is!  

i would invite anyone who's interested to come see it for themselves. And the SHADA console & studio set too! I could do with some new friends lol

Haha, be careful what you wish for Mark - I might accept!

[Rassilons Rod]

You may well get a lot of applicants 

I would invite anyone who's interested to come see it for themselves. And the SHADA console & studio set too! I could do with some new friends lol
best to all.
Mark

[timerotor]

Goodness, I've not seen that photo before. The only one I've ever seen of the back of the Newbery Box is from Horror of Fang Rock and isn't at all clear just how little of the rear corner posts were actually built:


(I must be slipping! ) indeed lol

So, at least you've proved what I suspected - thank you Mark! you're welcome



I drew this about two & a half years ago and, at least, it looks like I got the back right! looks that way yup!

A couple of posts ago, you replied to Marc/Rassilonsrod about the corner posts' inside quadrants continuing up the structure behind the sign-boxes. I think this is a better copy of the picture you used and might therefore better serve to illustrate your point:
Thanks for those lovely photos


This also shows the same thing but also shows the bolt heads used to secure the side panels to the corner-posts (not to mention just how badly aligned the left-hand window frame was!): I noticed this too. I tried to implement it on my reproduction, but thought that was taking it too far - it looked quite bad ;-( I may have done that if it was a scale model, but if you're going full size, it shouldn't look like you've got it wrong.



Hopefully this comment is helpful in that it might help future readers (or readers who are - perhaps - less familiar with this version) see how the original Newbery Box was built and therefore just how close/accurate and brilliant your build is!   indeed it is very helpful and thank you for your kind words.

Haha, be careful what you wish for Mark - I might accept! Grin

Yes, well.. umm... I have suddenly just upped sticks and moved to Outer Mongolia drive. sorry. Nah you're most welcome any time as long as you're kind to me! MBH

[superrichi1a]

thanks for your encouragement. i would invite anyone who's interested to come see it for themselves. And the SHADA console & studio set too! I could do with some new friends lol
best to all.
Mark

That is an incredibly kind offer, and one I'm sure many of us will be clamouring to take up once this is all over! Could not imagine anything more exciting

Incidentally, what you say about the yellowed windows struck a chord with me, as that's the first thing I started to appreciate about the prop, too. Something about them just works so well with its battered appearance to set everything off nicely.