I strongly suspect the people who would most benefit from and most appropriately appreciate the amount of work that has gone into this are located right on this board anyway.
Work like this that is so thoroughly researched and so well presented makes me want to build a console even though I previously had absolutely no interest in building a console. Its value to this community is absolute, no matter what publication has been fool enough to pass on it.*
*I also call bullsht on the decision. In 2019 dimensions are fixable with a mouse-click. Feels like there must be more to that story, but whatever it is isn't going to be as interesting as the plans themselves, so screw 'em.
Work like this that is so thoroughly researched and so well presented makes me want to build a console even though I previously had absolutely no interest in building a console. Its value to this community is absolute, no matter what publication has been fool enough to pass on it.*
*I also call bullsht on the decision. In 2019 dimensions are fixable with a mouse-click. Feels like there must be more to that story, but whatever it is isn't going to be as interesting as the plans themselves, so screw 'em.
markofrani
Member
That's a real shame Tony, you must be very disappointed. To be honest, your wonderful plans were the only reason I was going to buy the annual. Many thanks for sharing them with us at TB....
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tony farrell
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mverta said:
Thank you Mike - that is greatly appreciated.
A word of caution though, you might want to tot up how much you've spent on your TY-J Box before you commit to any console building!
mverta said:
Well, I've simply accurately repeated what I was told regarding the formatting issues which have prevented the article's intended publication. And, in fairness, they are still using my artwork to illustrate various stories
(see http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=8756.msg110307#msg110307 ).
From a purely personal and possessive point-of-view, I just hope that parts of my illustrations haven't been similarly concealed by the book's spine or cut-off at the top or bottom. I'll have to wait and see :-\ .....
Thanks also to other people who have commented on this topic. It really is very nice of you all. Now, all of you, don't just sit there reading this, go out, buy some timber and get building your very own Kenneth Sharp Console! ;D
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Tony Farrell said:A word of caution though, you might want to tot up how much you've spent on your TY-J Box before you commit to any console building!
The running total thus far would be entirely indefensible if not for the fact that I clearly have mental problems sufficient to be beyond reproach.
meantimebob
Member
Oh man, this is such dismal and baffling news. These things are an easy fix nowadays and presumably there'll be a big hole in the production now. What's going to replace those missing pages?
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tony farrell
Guest
The last I heard Meantimebob, the answer to your question was nothing; the annual's page count was to be reduced by 21 (but even then, it will still be approximately twice the number of pages as the Dr Who annuals it is intended as an 'homage' to).
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animatronick
Member
It's really a shame that you couldn't have been given more time to fix the issue that was present...
prydonianrenegade
Member
Sorry if I am disturbing an older thread, I was wondering if there were any larger resolution images of the above plans? I noticed the Panel 1 had a large image on the second to last page.
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tony farrell
Guest
Apologies for the delay in replying. I am hoping - with thanks to Brian Terranova (Terrasolo here on Tardis Builders) - that the full set of plans will be available as a down-loadable PDF in the very near future.
Myself, Dan Liwszyc, Slava (DW_1200), Steve (Fivefingeredstyre) and Karst (Karstenhotep) have all been working hard to prepare the "e-book" ready for your enjoyment and edification!
(I'm just waiting on a couple of bits but - if all goes well - the PDF should be ready by the end of August.)
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Myself, Dan Liwszyc, Slava (DW_1200), Steve (Fivefingeredstyre) and Karst (Karstenhotep) have all been working hard to prepare the "e-book" ready for your enjoyment and edification!
(I'm just waiting on a couple of bits but - if all goes well - the PDF should be ready by the end of August.)
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krynoid
New member
What did you use for the silver toggle switches, as in, are they two position or three (maybe "on-off-on")? They are hard to see in most of the TV images, but I am sure some at least appear to be vertical, rather than in a toggled up or down position, which would suggest they are 3-position - possibly only momentary in the "on" position, so the rest state is the vertical "off" position.
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tony farrell
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If you watch such stories as Colony in Space and Planet of the Daleks, I think that the majority of the toggle switches are two-way switches - if you listen when the Doctor is operating the Tardis - particularly in Colony - there is a distinct single click as each toggle switch is 'thrown' - if they were three-way switches, you'd expect to hear a double-click. Of course the single click could be that the switches 'resting' position is in the middle and that the single click is simply because both the Doctor and Jo (in Planet) simply move the switches to their 'down' positions.
I don't think that the visual evidence is strong enough to reach a definitive conclusion....
I've not really been of much help here, have I?!
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I don't think that the visual evidence is strong enough to reach a definitive conclusion....
I've not really been of much help here, have I?!
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krynoid
New member
Yeah, I had originally thought they were just two position switches, but then this picture had me wondering if those two switches there were actually positioned vertically... but now that I look at it again, it is a bit hard to be sure. I think I'll just go with the two way switches (probably what is referred to as "12V Heavy Duty Toggle Flick Switch" on eBay).
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tony farrell
Guest
Hi Krynoid,
Don't forget that the metal panel you're showing here was only added for the console's final appearance in the Pertwee era. The two toggle switches on this panel are different to the ones used on all the other panels; the 'stems' on the two toggle switches you've shown us here were nearly twice the length of those used elsewhere (the shorter ones being approx 1/2" in length).
Are you actually planning to build a Pertwee Console?
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Don't forget that the metal panel you're showing here was only added for the console's final appearance in the Pertwee era. The two toggle switches on this panel are different to the ones used on all the other panels; the 'stems' on the two toggle switches you've shown us here were nearly twice the length of those used elsewhere (the shorter ones being approx 1/2" in length).
Are you actually planning to build a Pertwee Console?
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krynoid
New member
Yes, good point about that panel being a later addition, and indeed those switches look different to the others. I had meant to ask how high the stems/levers are on the switches you used, so thanks for mentioning that - I had thought they might be a bit longer than 1/2". I think the switches I am looking at on eBay are longer, but I'm not going to stress too much about that.
I am building a Pertwee console, based extensively on your research, of which I am extremely grateful for. You have done such an incredible job, and I am not sure I would have embarked on this project if it weren't for your work! Mine is constructed a bit differently (to make it more modular), and I am severely "woodwork challenged", with no prior woodworking experience & only very basic tools, so it really is a significant challenge for me. I am expecting to have to make a lot of compromises, particularly when it comes to the controls (difficult to find some items without spending a lot of money), but my take on this is that I can replace substitute items for more accurate ones over time as I find them. I am currently part way through, with the hope that I can have enough completed such that I can display it at a local convention next month! I decided not to do a build diary in here until I am at least at a stage where I am fairly confident that it will all go together. I'll probably wait, though, & do more of a retrospective post about it, maybe after the convention.
I am building a Pertwee console, based extensively on your research, of which I am extremely grateful for. You have done such an incredible job, and I am not sure I would have embarked on this project if it weren't for your work! Mine is constructed a bit differently (to make it more modular), and I am severely "woodwork challenged", with no prior woodworking experience & only very basic tools, so it really is a significant challenge for me. I am expecting to have to make a lot of compromises, particularly when it comes to the controls (difficult to find some items without spending a lot of money), but my take on this is that I can replace substitute items for more accurate ones over time as I find them. I am currently part way through, with the hope that I can have enough completed such that I can display it at a local convention next month! I decided not to do a build diary in here until I am at least at a stage where I am fairly confident that it will all go together. I'll probably wait, though, & do more of a retrospective post about it, maybe after the convention.
warmcanofcoke
Active member
Tony Farrell said:(I'm just waiting on a couple of bits but - if all goes well - the PDF should be ready by the end of August.)
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In all seriousness I hope you and yours are healthy and well. Don't mind me I'm just looking for the new book by Tony Farrell, Dan Liwszyc, Slava , Steve, and Karst
karsthotep
Administrator
LOL....ok overshot August a bit..buuuuuuuttttt. Its close..soooo close. Trust me...very very close. People will not be disappointed.
redfern
Member
warmcanofcoke said:Tony Farrell said:(I'm just waiting on a couple of bits but - if all goes well - the PDF should be ready by the end of August.)
In all seriousness I hope you and yours are healthy and well. Don't mind me I'm just looking for the new book by Tony Farrell, Dan Liwszyc, Slava , Steve, and Karst
Hey, WarmCanofCoke, you have a a rather cool voice, there! Seriously! You do any voice work?
Sincerely,
Bill
warmcanofcoke
Active member
Bill, feel free to call me Nathan or Nate.
I'd like to do voice work.
I'd like to do voice work.