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Jelly Babies and the like

thewhovian228

thewhovian228

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I thought we could do with a dedicated thread for Jelly Babies and other snacks The Doctor has used repeatedly. Like Jammy dodgers, custard creams and all sorts, and where to get them.
 
I once purchased 3-4 bags of Bassets from Tom Baker's website- too sweet for me. He doesn't appear to be selling them at the moment.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=jelly+babies&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
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However I see there are additional brands I have yet to try.
 
My recent discovery that resulted in my further derailing a thread about TerraSolo cosplaying Tennant at a Ren Fair.

https://www.publix.com/pd/taveners-proper-sweets-jelly-babies/RIO-PCI-164066

Yep, I can actually visit the Publix in my "sleepy southern Georgia town" and purchase genuine jelly babies straight from the shelf!

They tasted good enough that I chowed down the 2 bags I bought on Thursday before Saturday had ended.  *BURP*

Sincerely,

Bill
 
thewhovian228 said:
Something I've been thinking about for a while is: How does the Custard cream dispenser work?
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Compact, single-purpose matter fabrication. - A technobable term I've just invented.
I'm fairly sure we've been told the Tardis can make things (like a new Sonic for 11) so it'd be like a mini Replicator (Star Trek, not Stargate) just for one biscuit at a time.
 
Could be something as simple as a stagehand gently nudging the snack down the inclined shoot when the director shouts "Action!"

Sincerely,

Bill
 
The whole chute pivots. The foot pedal simply pulls the end of the chute downwards, and then the little car containing the custard cream rolls down to the end.
 
I have this absurd notion that the Doctor continually visits a quaint lil' sweet shoppe (maybe resembling the one in "Willy Wonka", the "Gene Wilder" version, of course) to purchase the gelatin morsels by weight as stores did decades ago.  Maybe it's sometime after WWII, the late 40s.  The shopkeeper has built a rapport with the Doctor, eventually piecing together the "oddities", even coming to realize different people visiting the shoppe are the same person, kinda' like the Brigadier in that regard.  Maybe the Doctor has requested the shopkeeper to avoid discussing other visits as it's quite possible the Doctor occasionally arrives "out of sequence" and to avoid paradoxes, just don't discuss what could be spoilers.

Couldn't the Doctor simply have the TARDIS crank out the jelly babies as with the custard creams?  Yeah, certainly, but I see the Doctor believing there is a difference in taste and prefers the 'imperfections" of traditionally manufactured sweets.  Yes, something as magically advanced as the TARDIS could no doubt create similar randomness, but of course the Doctor would "claim" to taste a difference.

For the sake of argument, let's assume it was Troughton's doctor who "discovered" the joy of jelly babies.  I can picture the Doctor wandering into the shoppe, pondering what to get.  The shopkeeper suggests he might try some jelly babies and "the Trout" is hooked.  The twist, the 2nd Doctor has arrived much later, long after the Doctor and the "candy man" have become friends.  The shopkeeper knows it's the Doctor and offers the sweets knowing it starts/maintains a predestination causality loop.  From the store owner's perspective, meeting the Doctor for the first time, the latter knew exactly what he wanted and recommends the shopkeeper keep them stocked.

Just some idle speculation during "lockdown".  Feel free to blow "raspberries" at the notion.

Sincerely,

Bill
 
A question for you, Russell, our resident 4th Doctor expert.

When Tom offered his famous sweets, were the jelly babies usually stored in a proper "sack", or were they held within a sheet of "flat" paper, folded and wadded into an impromptu "bag"?  Or did the prop department (or would that have fallen under "craft services"?) hand Tom whatever was available, sometimes a crumpled bag, other times folded/wadded "flat" paper?

Why such a seemingly frivolous question?  Well, I recently digitally modeled a more accurate looking jelly baby (loosely based upon the "Taveners" brand I can actually buy "off the shelf" here in southern Georgia) and I want to try modeling the style of protective wrapping tom usually had in his pocket.  I want to offer the meshes to the 3D community so they can use them in their digital renderings if they wish (for free, of course)

I reasoned if anybody has paid attention to a detail like that, it would be our dear Russell.  Of course, if anybody else has some observations on the matter, feel free to divulge!

Sincerely,

Bill
 
I'm sure Russell will have a good answer too, but I would imagine that they just sent someone out to the shops to buy some.

In those days (and at least until the early 80's when I was still a child), you could go into shops here in the UK that had many shelves filled with jars and they would sell you what you wanted, in the amounts you wanted and they came in little paper bags, just like Tom had in his pockets. :)

redfern said:
A question for you, Russell, our resident 4th Doctor expert.

When Tom offered his famous sweets, were the jelly babies usually stored in a proper "sack", or were they held within a sheet of "flat" paper, folded and wadded into an impromptu "bag"?  Or did the prop department (or would that have fallen under "craft services"?) hand Tom whatever was available, sometimes a crumpled bag, other times folded/wadded "flat" paper?

Why such a seemingly frivolous question?  Well, I recently digitally modeled a more accurate looking jelly baby (loosely based upon the "Taveners" brand I can actually buy "off the shelf" here in southern Georgia) and I want to try modeling the style of protective wrapping tom usually had in his pocket.  I want to offer the meshes to the 3D community so they can use them in their digital renderings if they wish (for free, of course)

I reasoned if anybody has paid attention to a detail like that, it would be our dear Russell.  Of course, if anybody else has some observations on the matter, feel free to divulge!

Sincerely,

Bill
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Ah, the time when many items were still offered by weight.  Yeah, the wrappings Tom pulled from his pocket did not look to be factory measured and sealed, just blank paper, usually white.  That's why I posted that lil' "scenario" on July 23, to suggest the Doctor is continually visiting a sweet shop in the 40s or 50s, buying the sweets "old school".

Sincerely,

Bill
 
Rassilons Rod said:
I'm sure Russell will have a good answer too, but I would imagine that they just sent someone out to the shops to buy some.

In those days (and at least until the early 80's when I was still a child), you could go into shops here in the UK that had many shelves filled with jars and they would sell you what you wanted, in the amounts you wanted and they came in little paper bags, just like Tom had in his pockets. :)
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If you look around there are still a few shops around the country that still sell them like that!  You can't beat them like that! Yum!!
 
I love the Iron Legion!
You beat me to posting that opening splash page, mate!!

That is exactly how I imagine the 4th Doctor restocking up on his Jelly babies...pop back in time to a little corner shop & buy a few!

I always hoped that one day I'd be in my little sweet shop where I got my stocks from. I'd turn round & there queueing up behind me would be the 4th Doctor ready to buy up the shops entire stock!!

(Mind you, I was hoping NOT to see the shop owner ruthlessly gunned down by a Roman space robot!!)

Happy days,

Russell
 
The last remaining original Met box it at Crich Tramway Museum.. and they also have a sweet shop where you can buy things by weight and in little paper bags!  (Or they did last time we went before lockdown began.)
 
Italy and Spain also still have a decent number shops were you can buy sweets by weight. No paper bags though, they've moved with the times and are now plastic. These shops are very common actually. Well, at least in Italy a decade ago and in Spain until last year. And surprisingly, no, they didn't go under. All the sweet shops decided that February 2020 was the perfect time to pack up and leave Spain. There's a reason why, but it doesn't involve jelly babies, so it doesn't belong in this thread.
 
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