• Attn: If you were on the old forum, you may have to reset your password!

Era Locks 2007 onward

Just incase it hasn't been said the 2007 (Series 3) Lock is an ERA. If you pause it on the (I believe) the Lazurus Experiement, you will see that The Doctor places a ERA key into the lock.

BioDoctor900
 
Utopia

The Girl Who Waited

 

Attachments

  • Utopialock.jpg
    Utopialock.jpg
    86.1 KB · Views: 1,359
  • GirlWhoWaitedlock2.jpg
    GirlWhoWaitedlock2.jpg
    86.8 KB · Views: 1,316
  • GirlWhoWaitedlock.jpg
    GirlWhoWaitedlock.jpg
    88.1 KB · Views: 1,335
Same style lock, but chrome and clean.  The logo seems to have been removed from the knob.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff
 
On closer examination the new lock seems to be a slightly different version: same style, but still quite different.

In the "Utopia" image, the lock's body stops before the seam in the door stile. The sides of the lock's body are angled with "U-slots" for the screwdriver to get at the mounting screws holding the lock in place. And as Bill points out the body is clearly brass.

In "The Girl Who Waited" images, the lock's body clearly extends beyond the seam and onto the door stile. It also has a distinctive rectangular body with a "mounting flange" and doesn't have those slots for a screwdriver; the mounting screws are on the flange, in the open. (Again as Bill points out, this body is now clearly chrome with no logo on the knob.)

So the Smith box (at least on the inside of the door for the Console Room set) definitely has a different lock. Is it possible that it's a custom lock - possibly still an ERA lock, but asked for without any logos on it? Or did the Beeb go for a "generic" logo-less lock that looks close enough to the Yale/ERA lock?

Dino.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20131010_020400_094_zps27a6c145.jpg
    IMG_20131010_020400_094_zps27a6c145.jpg
    165.8 KB · Views: 955
  • IMG_20131010_020415_938_zps0bb7707f.jpg
    IMG_20131010_020415_938_zps0bb7707f.jpg
    129.2 KB · Views: 970
  • IMG_20131010_020132_876_zps1467b878.jpg
    IMG_20131010_020132_876_zps1467b878.jpg
    169.2 KB · Views: 939
Hi! I'm new here, and I know this thread is old, but with the lip edge running around both surfaces, I am almost 99% sure its a Yale 77 in TGWW with either a chrome finish or polished out. I'm leaning towards polished because the actual chrome lock differs slightly from the bronze ones it seems.



With some work done to remove the logo:


Here are the products...




Below you can see what appears to be the chromed version I found a pic of online (I haven't seen an actual chrome 77 in person) and how it seems to differ slightly in the round bolt holes:



Please let me know if I'm being too detailed with this and the consensus is more that "anything close will do".  :)
 

Attachments

  • s-l500.jpg
    s-l500.jpg
    46.9 KB · Views: 267
  • MzAUiwS.jpg
    MzAUiwS.jpg
    47.7 KB · Views: 603
  • LUuPxXB.jpg
    LUuPxXB.jpg
    47.9 KB · Views: 591
  • 8IJLcgt.jpg
    8IJLcgt.jpg
    12.2 KB · Views: 602
  • iCyoZ91.jpg
    iCyoZ91.jpg
    46.8 KB · Views: 593
  • QgnGy2f.jpg
    QgnGy2f.jpg
    42.1 KB · Views: 620
Well, mmcfly, (mind if I just call you mm?), this and other threads might be old, but they're referred to as "hibernating" until something new comes along to wake them up. (And welcome to the TARDIS Builders Family, by the way.)

The lock on the actual set doors (as opposed to the lock on the TARDIS Prop doors) is certainly chrome. If you take a closer look at the other posts above, you'll see that in Series 1-4 it has been positively identified as a 60mm brass ERA Night Latch lock, and there is an ERA logo on the knob.

The lock from Series 5 onwards is definitely chrome. I don't think it would be a bronze one that was polished down to that extent as to have the shiny surface rather than the textured one, and even if it was, it would still look bronze, not silvery chrome. Even though there are no markings on it could be a Yale lock in chrome. (The shape is a perfect match to the Yale 77, 60mm lock.) The questions are: 1) since the Yale lock of that type comes in chrome (as you've shown in your image) did the BBC get one and replace the knob with a logo-less one; and 2) if the BBC didn't use a generic blank knob, then what is the best Yale look-alike?

So it might be a chrome Yale lock - possibly with a BBC-specified plain knob - or it might be a Yale clone.

Dino.
 
Interestingly enough, in this grab from "The Doctor's Wife" it's clear that the knob originally had "Yale" logo on it!

1761602373952.jpeg

But later on it gets removed, as seen in "The Girl Who Waited".

1761602802081.jpeg

And it wasn't digitally removed as I thought at first - here's a picture from a Flickr user LJinto, who went on a TARDIS Tour back in 2012.

1761602582780.jpeg

From what I see, it is the same knob that had "Yale" logo on it, and it was indeed mechanically removed from it.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top