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Differentiating Prop A vs B

The Toymaker

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what is the difference between prop A and B’s frame? Besides the wood grain not be identical because no piece of wood is the same. How did people even notice that doors had been switched between the two at various points during filming?
 
what is the difference between prop A and B’s frame? Besides the wood grain not be identical because no piece of wood is the same. How did people even notice that doors had been switched between the two at various points during filming?
it's mostly wood grain and weathring. other wise the aim was to make the same looking box. planks were cut and crossed the same way, base and polls are the same thickness. the raised details are similarly carved and all. down to the sides and doors being diffrent looking on both and the doors could be switched

Edit: oh and in series one, the window backing could have been instaled on one first and then the other, or it just looks the way because of filming blocks date being out of sequance timing wise to what you see on screen. also i think tardis B was more often used in studio so might be some reason to it. same with the warm lighting instead of cold for the windows
 
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it's mostly wood grain and weathring. other wise the aim was to make the same looking box. planks were cut and crossed the same way, base and polls are the same thickness. the raised details are similarly carved and all. down to the sides and doors being diffrent looking on both and the doors could be switched

Edit: oh and in series one, the window backing could have been instaled on one first and then the other, or it just looks the way because of filming blocks date being out of sequance timing wise to what you see on screen. also i think tardis B was more often used in studio so might be some reason to it. same with the warm lighting instead of cold for the windows
interestingly the bases between a and b are constructed differently, which while not easy to spot is a good tell
(top image prop a, bottom image prop b)
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Would you mind elaborating on that if that's okay?
On Prop A (I had them labelled incorrectly before, only recently learned this so correcting myself now lol) there were these visible splits on the base, which is only on Prop A, with Prop B not seeming to have this same build marking, highlighted with the red circles
(Prop B top image, Prop A bottom- again had them labelled incorrectly last time :P, always fun doing research and finding stuff out)
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On Prop A (I had them labelled incorrectly before, only recently learned this so correcting myself now lol) there were these visible splits on the base, which is only on Prop A, with Prop B not seeming to have this same build marking, highlighted with the red circles
(Prop B top image, Prop A bottom- again had them labelled incorrectly last time :P, always fun doing research and finding stuff out)
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Ahh I see, thank you!
 
On Prop A (I had them labelled incorrectly before, only recently learned this so correcting myself now lol) there were these visible splits on the base, which is only on Prop A, with Prop B not seeming to have this same build marking, highlighted with the red circles
(Prop B top image, Prop A bottom- again had them labelled incorrectly last time :P, always fun doing research and finding stuff out)
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It's a little more complicated than that! It's actually "prop A" in your top picture (I call it "A" for a reason that it was the box that was used the most in Season 1, while the other box only showed up a couple of times as a supporting prop).

Here is "prop A" in its original configuration, before the parts of the two boxes got mixed between each other:

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And here's "prop B" in its original configuration as it appeared on Blue Peter in March 2005:

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In your lower picture (from the shooting of The Christmas Invasion) what you see is a "hybrid". Its both doors, front police box sign and the base are from "prop B", but its both front corner posts and the roof are taken from "prop A"! Except the roof has been turned 90° anticlockwise!

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Just compare these two. "Prop A" on the left, "hybrid" on the right (with both front corner posts and the roof taken from "prop "A", but both doors, front police box sign and the base from "prop B"). I highlighted the very obvious dents which are the same between the two. Everything else (the base, front police box sign and both doors) is surely different, if you examine the woodgrain.

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Here's how the roof turned out to be. "Prop A" on the left, "hybrid" on the right. Notice how "prop A"'s roof has been turned 90°.

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And here's is another comparison. The "hybrid" prop on the left, original "prop B" on the right. Notice, that the front police box signs and both doors are the same:

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Regarding the base. Both bases are exactly the same in construction, but for some reason they just turned it 90° on the "hybrid" prop some time during production of Season 2! "Prop B" has four very distinctive markings on the front of its base, which are not presented on "prop A". Here they are, I highlighted them:

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And they were still there on the "hybrid" prop when they were shooting The Christmas Invasion! It's just that the base is facing us sideways.

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Regarding the base. Both bases are exactly the same in construction, but for some reason they just turned it 90° on the "hybrid" prop some time during production of Season 2! "Prop B" has four very distinctive markings on the front of its base, which are not presented on "prop A". Here they are, I highlighted them:

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And they were still there on the "hybrid" prop when they were shooting The Christmas Invasion! It's just that the base is facing us sideways.

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ohhhh interesting! I was only ever aware of the doors being switched between the props, thank you for the breakdown and the new info!
 
I was only ever aware of the doors being switched between the props
Exactly! It's a miracle that somehow after such a bizarre mix-up both boxes returned to their original configurations! Well, aside from their doors, which stayed switched. And we still don't know much about both pairs of rear corner posts, as well as both sets of side walls and top signs...
 
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