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1996 TV movie wooden TARDIS build

So...
Before doing a the top list, little back ground about me. I've discovered the show in early 2011ish. A friend (a english speaker) at school told me about it, and at the time, they where running some new series 1 on the tv (France 4). By sheer luck, i've started watching rose a afternoon and fell in love with it. Big departure from the Dukes of hazzard i loved at the time and other Back to the future. So i've starded with series one onwards. It wasn't my first british show, my dad shared with me some Avengers, the prisoner, cosmos 1999 and... Of course... i was a euphémistique fan of the thunderbirds.

So action blusy comédie and adventure with awsome scores and quirky machines was my jam as a kid. And practical effects, either full blown or on the budget too.

At the time i vaguly knew about the classic series and i was late on the internet thingy at home, so i would get intressted in the shows back ground way later.

I've studied cinema later at school and, because i'm facinated with props, i've gain intressted in the past of doctor who. I've learn more about the métropolitain police boxes (i thought they were just some old school téléphone cabine for the every day man. Just, you can only call the police when in fact it is suppose to be a mini office/check point. Wich is why they are bigger then the red phone cabines). I've learnd about the past doctors, and i have to say, even if i have some preference, i love all the actors and incarnetion, no exeption... Yes even poor old sixy...

With that said, my criteria, in my mind, for a good looking tardis is a to make a decently size box based on the british métropolitain blu police box. It must be decently sized so it looks more like a human could work at his desk without being cramoed (and fit more then 4 actors some what confortably) . The base must be the moste heavy looking part in
the silhouette, it must also be either equal or thiccer then the corner posts, it must have the 3 on 3 pains windows and it must have a solide look. By that i mean it must not be flimzy. It can be battered, dirty or old, but not looking like it can fall appart at any moment.
I also prefer contrasting sign boxes, phone panel graphics and window tint against the window fitting (black window if the contours are white and white if the window bars are a dark blue or other dark shades) the sign boxes must no be larger and thiccer then the base

Other then that, can be any shade of blu or even something else (i would love to see a glasgow red one one day, or a british green maybe). I like it either wood or concrète but not just flat. I like some texture and even more if highlighted by the paint job (weathering or spécial paint job) what berwin 2 an 3 steps for the roof. I don't care much about the corner posts look, ether classic or new series style. Same for the sign boxes, as long as they are not too big.

With all of that nit picking, here's my top.


 
N°11- the Barry Newberry prop. All of them until the refurb to make it look like the Tom Yardley Jones one. It's too small, too squat, the base is too fin, the lamp to small when it's not the gyrophare, wich i don't like either... I don't hate any boxes, exept this one. To be faire tho, it looks like the tardis and a part of me kinda likes the pink and yellow window, even if appantly it was just a lighting thing... Idk. Also the fact that it doesn't have lighting windows or sign boxes (wich is a thing for most of the classic tardis) realy makes it look flat. There's much effort in the texturing and it looks flimzy... Because it was very fragile and not looked after much.


N°10-the Capaldi props. Soo... I really like the Colin Richmond/Ed Thomas boxes (wich i'll call CR/ET boxes from now on) variant. Like it or not, it brought with it a sort of graphical cohérenxe to the tardis exterior, wich i think helped not to loost the public for a while... But may be it out stayed it's welcome. The Capaldi boxes sadly had a lot of fault most of the old series box could have. It was a bit squater, why not, but the flat paint, the bigger sign boxes, the too high roof, the idious and fragile lamp (the smith ancor lamp was changed for a more poll like lamp wich was very fragile but also easy to replicate with cheminé pipes and metal rodes) and mostly, that pai't job... It's sad, because, non of the new series box before that looked that cheap. Wich is even ore sad because it is absolutly not cheap !! But flat paint with shooting wear made it feel like the prop it was.that there were. Abused and fragilised. And it's shame in my opinion
(btw, i was about to put it in behind the CR/ET C prop, but it was such a desapointment that i put it here... So i guess i hate an other one of those... Pretty equal to the previous entry, exept this one has a low ranking for being desapointing... Plus Capaldi was a doctor that was owed a better tardis exterior i think. It didn't reflect much of his personality. It just looked like a NSDW tardis.such a shame)

N°9- the Brachacki original. It pains me to put it so low on the list, yet it's one that doesn't intrest me much when i think of it. I like it, a lot, it just happeneds to not be a favourit. It's a bit small looking, no light other then the lamp, the concret texture isn't the best looking one and it was also a pretty fragile prop. I like the opening windows tho. And i do have a lot of respect for it, because it was a prop made on a budget and had to fit a cramped tv studio space.


N°8- the Brachacky altered. Mostly same stuff then the last entry. Altho i got to say i lile the quirkiness of it. Tho it doesn't look much like a police box anymore, and still is a bit flimzy, the look grew on me. So he's a bit higher on the list, but it's pretty equal to the original.


N°7-the TV movie box. It's a very cool looking box, it was shot in a way that makes the color realy nice despit being a pretty classic blu in the day. The hammered pan in randome location were nice addition without it looking too destracting (even if a pain to research on... Wink wink). Light effects !!
I just would have prefered the sign boxes to be a bit more flat and the graphics to contrast a bit more against the blu.
Very cool box other wise. It's on the smaller size but it's "acfeptable to me"
Very well designed.


N°6-the TWJ. It's a very nice looking box, it nails every color schems i think. The shape is very good, exept for the fin base that doesn't even hide the little wheels (come on, even the daleks did)
I don't hate the lamp, it tries too look like a métropolitain lamp, i just happened to like other styles better.
Also no light effect outside of the lamps
It's also a small box again. And the texture of it looks to flat. It was not looking to flimzy, wich is a very big surprisz when you see making of. The shooting team handle that boxes with no care at all, im surprised it survived...


N°5- the Cushing movie boxes. I think they where 4 of them if i'm not mistaking. It's the only tardis i've seen irl too. I d'say it's almost equal to the TYJ in the ranking. It's basicly a métropolitain police box. Nothing much more to say. It's one of the only tardis with glossy/satin texture look. Wich fits it. Nice choice of blu, it has lights !! (a first i believe for the classic boxes) maybe the panels are bit small, idk. Very nice boxes, i have to say. Also very nice général size and shape.


N°4-the new series C prop. As the Tennant and the ware doctor. I like the corner post this thic... I wish the base could havr been made thiccer aswell... Sadly. Other then that, the paint job is nice, a bit more bluish. I prefer the lamp on the 2 previous prop, the rods look better on the side of the lantern insteat of solder on it.tho i get it was done this way because it was less fragile
As the warr doctor prop, i love the one of weathering. But i think the lamp is too small.
Over all one i like, a variant of a favorit wich lacks just a bit... Because i'm very picky X)


N°3-the Arwel wyn Jones. A totaly new vison of the tardis. It's also the closest to beeing green. The corogated glass and metal framed opening windows fits the look. Black graphics, same. It's may be a bit too small, idk. I like the promortion over all. 3stepes roof also, it's a rare sight. The first handles on the 2first props were a bit hod, and i'm still a bit skeptic ont the placment. I also bon't like the lamp much. The led blu look wierdly toyish and it's basicly and ancor lamp dumped on the roof.
Anyway, the paint/texture job is very intressting to me. I like both the wood and concret look, it' s the best of both i think. It looks cohérent on it's own. And the paint finish is glossy in some places and flat in other, wich i think brings even more intresting texture. The noches are a bit wierd to, but i grew to like it. Over all, the 3 props are very high in my estime.


N°2-...a hard choice, but i guess i have to say the NSDW CR/ET A and B props... Wich feels wierd, because Tennant and mostly Eccleston are my doctors. And if i build a full size tardis (wink) it's the one i want, interior and all. If i were to judge with the interior, it would be first for sure... Anyway
I like the propotions of it. I guess more rectangular and a bit smaller pannels would look good, but i like it the way it is. New style of post, why not, heavy weathering half way betwin space ware wear and street corner decade of sitting, highlighting a asumed wood base. Contrasting windows, nice color choice, nice handles and locks, well placed.I also like the lamp and the warm white lighting effects. It feels geounded in reality. also a first, if the door opens, you can see the inside instead of a black void. And i love it. First to feature a phone too. A childhood tinted favourit... Yeah, it's not very objective... But i gotta be honnest and talk about the next entry.


N°1- the series 5 tardis. At the time, it was a plesant redesign. Yet i didn't like this tardis as much as i liked the previous box. I think it's mostly due to the interior and the lore that came with the redesign. Now that i look at my criteria, this has to be the winner.
The paint job is mignificiant. I love the tinted wood. I'm still a bit more of a fan of the half space ship/half decade sitting box of the previous version, yet the series 5 D prop beats it with the general shape made more solide because of the thiccer base and corner posts and that beautifull lamp. The old school white frame over black windows and the stjones ambulance logo are a win.
It's just a very nice design in my opinion. Also it was my very first DW toy (the CO Flight control tardis) wich i still have, despite it suposed to be a gift to the friend that introduced me to the show... I'm a awfull friend X) i'll give here one of my model, i promise.


Any way, that was my top tardis list... Clic the bell and subscribe i guess X)

Thx for reading my french broken english if you did, and feel free to comment or do a top too if you want. I'm curious to hear about favourit boxes and mostly why.


 
Your English is a damn site better than my French, so I think you are doing ok!!

I'll wade in with a top 5:


5) Newberry, just because it brings back childhood memories of Tom.

4) TYJ: Like the texturing & general shape.

3) Cushing Movie box. Because it looks most like the real thing.

2) Brachacki.  The original is hard to beat.

1) Hudolin.  A chunky upgrade of the original.


I'm afraid I'm not a huge fan of any of the new boxes....sorry!

I expect if enough people contribute a list, then it will be split off to form it's own topic...

I'm sure there was a top 10 TARDIS list on TARDISbuilders once before, but I can't seem to find it...

I'm personally waiting for the definitive top ten list of TARDIS top ten lists...  ;D

Regards,

Russell



 
That's a good sélection in my humble opinion. Those tops tells a lot about our history with the show i think. I'm a big kid, so i like the big fancy toys with the light effets and inside cards X)
 
alextheyellowthing said:
That's a good sélection in my humble opinion. Those tops tells a lot about our history with the show i think. I'm a big kid, so i like the big fancy toys with the light effets and inside cards X)

Yes, they do!

My top 3 would be 1) Brachacki/Brachacki Altered, 2) Newbery, 3) New Series TARDIS.

Having grown up with New Who, this seems weird, however, my father is what you may call a well-intended idiot. During my rebel teenage years, he didn't like it that I was watching some Classic Who out of curiosity, so he banned me from watching it. He, naturally, failed spectacularly. Instead of having to sneak around to do illegal stuff like most other teenagers did, I had to sneak around to watch old TV! He did catch me when I was watching City of Death, but when I informed him that he hadn't noticed that I had carried on with my little hobby that he had banned three years ago, he was kind of dumb-struck and let it go.

So, for me, Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee and Baker have this huge thrill that I don't have with any other Doctors. And that's why their TARDISes are on the top of my list, it brings back memories of the thrill it was to see them while I had to sneak around!
 
[member=8098]scotland yard[/member] that's actually a pretty intressting trivia X)
I'm use to the "japanidiotique" ban, no "anime" but tom sawyer, candy, ulyss31, detective conan etc was ok when oban star racer, wakfu and code lyoko was not... But the classic doxtor who is a new. Beneficial ban i guess ? I don't think hiding pieces of média that armless is realy priductive in anyway but i guess it didn't turned out bad.
At least, it's a fun storry to tell now.
 
Hey, i still haven't been out for wood, there's been to much rain lately and i fear all i'll fined is soaked ans warp ply wood worth nothing no more.

So instead, i've started, the tidious and not really requiered because you can fine sone decent one on the net, job of making metal hinges. So here's how i make my "lockdown hinges:
Disclamer, i'm manipulating metal and heavy pliers. I don't think it's that dangerous, but be care full i guess.

You'll need a fine sheet of Steel (about half a millimètre to quarter a millimètre of thincness) mine use to be a lemon sirop canister (i don't recommand sourcing you metal in soda cans, the métal is to fine, if you can bend it without any efforts, keep searching)
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I start with a strip that i cut twice the final lenght i desire. You should be able to make this hinges at any scale you're after (there's a limite to how small it can be i guess)
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Then, using a steel rode(nails works pretty well, in this exemple, i use a metal staple holding the wooden pallets i've sourced most of my wood from) bend it in half and clamp it to shape with pliers, trying to keep a side flat (looking from the side, it should look like a "d")
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Repeat the process to make the other half of the hinges
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Then, using a cuting plier or a solide pair of cisors, starting from the midle out, make those separations. You can use the steel rode and a niddle to reshape thz holes. Then bend inward the metal tabs (1 evey 2 tabs) like so:
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Repeat on the other side and assemble both pieces. Incert an rode or a nail inside the holes et voilà. IMG_20210108_021215_664.jpgIMG_20210108_021213_916.jpgIMG_20210108_021211_846.jpg

And try to keep it staight, if not, redo it again i guessIMG_20210108_021210_596.jpg

I've use those on evey of my tardis, so far, they're been hiden inside, but i think, with enought work, they could be fitted on the door sides like it is in the show/movies.
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I hope i'm not to confusing in my explanations and that it could get use full to someone


Cheers
 
Those hinges look incredible!

I'm constantly amazed at how you can do such detailed work on such a small scale.

Your eyes must be a lot better than mine!!


Great work,

Russell
 
russellsuthern said:
Those hinges look incredible!

I'm constantly amazed at how you can do such detailed work on such a small scale.

Your eyes must be a lot better than mine!!


Great work,

Russell


Thx, it's actuly pretty easy to do i think. A bit fiddly but nothing compared to the door handles.
 
This Website really makes me appreciate diversity.  The temptation is to be a snob and say "I only do full-size physical builds."  But then you see someone's scratch-built model.  Or their 3D rendering.  Or the research they've done on identifying police boxes, and you really appreciate all the hard work and skill that goes into other aspects of the hobby. 
 
Absolutely!

It is fantastic that the site broadened it's remit & covers various different categories.

Not least because if it only featured full size, real world TARDIS builds, we would often be waiting a looong time between new posts & updates! 


Best regards & kudos to anyone who contributes to TARDISbuilders, in all their myriad ways!

Russell

 
[member=1524]Volpone[/member] [member=4159]russellsuthern[/member] i'm trully impressed about how much this forum holds. And for a nerdy obsesive guy like me, it made my research in to those props so much easier and quick, i can't even think how much time it would have took me to other wise. the best point of comparaison i have, is the Back to the future delorean i haven't even finished. reasearching on those 7ish props are still a work in progress. Had to that, all the creative, talented and open mined/calm tempered people, i'm impressed and glade i've joined in earlier this year. and i'm also very glade the forum got back after it went a couple month ago. For me, it started with a chiness produced garden lamp lol... (which i missed the last one on sale of 3weeks after 20ish years of being aviable in stores...)
i'm glade to be there, i enjoye the place a lot, and i'm glade to help a bit if i do in anyway.
and thx guys for being around too ^^
 
At the risk of further derailing your thread (that's kinda my thing here), I remember when the new series was still fairly new and there was a thread here where they did enough analysis on the TARDIS key that it was decided it was likely a person could make a key that would open the lock on the BBC prop with the research done here. 

And speaking of research on '80s vehicles, I've done an A-Team van (not a time machine so maybe too far off topic but I digress).  My point is, not only is there very little information out there, a lot of people who've built A-Team vans, I swear they intentionally put false info out there to mess up other people doing builds.  Meanwhile here someone will be "Does anyone know the diameter on the time column from the 1963 prop?" and 3 people will have the answer and at least 2 of them will point you to the thread the information was in in the first place. 

Someone will be trying to figure out why their K-9 doesn't look right and someone else will point out that K-9's ears are mounted at an angle.  A lot of places, people would smugly think "my K-9 is better than your K-9," but here we want each other to succeed. 
 
[member=1524]Volpone[/member]
The A team van is a hard one to research because there's been a couple hero props (3 to my knowlege that you can defernciate by the indicators, the mirrors and some part of the body kit, and the number of bolts on the wheels). After that, stunt wise, the production went generaly pretty cheap and used almost every van aviable at the time, crudly painted and that's it.

I recommand looking up bob's prop shop for that. He does perfect replicas of the time machine but also some other hollywood cars. The guy as some good connexions and manage to get some good stuff that he shares a bit on youtube.
 
I don't remember if we see it open or not, but given the gag where the motorcycle drives in (which, of course, they used an even wider stunt prop) it is certainly implied that it opens. 
 
Volpone said:
I don't remember if we see it open or not, but given the gag where the motorcycle drives in (which, of course, they used an even wider stunt prop) it is certainly implied that it opens. 

That's my guess so far. I don't have access to the tv movie at the moment, i think there a shot/reverse shot with the hero prop and the bike before a pan/traveling shot where the bike enter the tardis
 
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