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Jelly Babies and the like

Started by thewhovian228, Feb 26, 2020, 08:50 am

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In the cities in the streets there's a tension you can feel,
The breaking strain is fast approaching, guns and riots.
Politicians gamble and lie to save their skins,
And the press get fed the scapegoats,
Public Enema Number One.

redfern

I will admit it's rather odd; here's this site that focuses upon the construction of fictional time machines using real world materials, and I'm presenting digital models of real life confections.  :-\

What's wrong with this picture?!  :o

Sincerely,

Bill

redfern

Jun 05, 2021, 02:18 am #32 Last Edit: Jun 05, 2021, 02:14 pm by redfern Reason: Uploaded new render with "tweaks".
M4-Baker-at-Shoppe-J-2.jpg

Stemming from this post...

https://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?msg=126483

...here we see the Doctor visiting his favorite sweet shop to restock  his supply of jelly babies.

It turns out I had purchased but forgotten about assets that depict a quasi Victorian styled candy store.  The set contains a bunch of Christmas themed accessories, but when omitted, the "stage" works for other times of the year.

Both Tom Baker's Doctor and the aged proprietor are the same base mesh, Michael 4.  That model (and many others offered at daz3d.com) are designed to "morph" into different characters.

russellsuthern

Great pic.

I love Toms scarf, & his likeness is very accurate.

The whole scene has a very nice vintage vibe.

The sweet shop owner is very buff, tho...

My first thought was, "What's Jason Statham doing running a sweet shop?!"   ;)

You could do a whole graphic novel in this style-

It'd look awesome!!

Regards,


Russell

kutan66

Last night I started re-reading The Iron Legion graphic novel too!   

Jam Jar Lurker

Quote from: kutan66 on Jun 05, 2021, 09:54 amLast night I started re-reading The Iron Legion graphic novel too!   

I've very fond memories of the Iron Legion from back in the day. Think I've got the graphic novel somewhere inaccessible upstairs.

Did anyone get the Big Finish version? Was it good?

Francïs
"Have courage, and be kind... Where there is kindness, there is goodness. And where there is goodness, there is magic."

redfern

I updated my previous post with a new render, attempting to slim down the shop owner and his clothing.  Hopefully without getting too technical, I added a control to "emaciate" the figure and copy that setting to his clothing.  I tweaked his shirt sleeves in particular.  I will note there is a systemic limitation with this particular figure and others from the same range when it comes to the shoulders.  When the arms are lowered, the deltoids tend to bulge, suggesting exercise when one might not want that effect.  There (or were) control sets to counteract effects like this, but this figure and others of the Millennium 4 series are so old that many "add on" packages are simply no longer available.

Anyway, I did what I could without spending days on what I consider a "digital doodle".

Oh, to clarify, this is not meant to be a recreation or adaptation of the "Iron Legion" comic, especially since somebody noted the shopkeeper gets brutally killed.  Nah, I'd like to believe this quaint fellow has a long and relatively happy life.  (Yeah, I realize that seldom happens when somebody meets the Doctor.)

BTW, thanks for the kind words and "up" votes, everyone!

Sincerely,

Bill

russellsuthern

I quite like the idea of the Doctor having acquaintances who he sees regularly, but they never get involved in his adventures & don't die in a horrible way.
I can imagine the sweet shop owner saying to a friend, "There's this crazy guy, wonderful bloke, but quite bonkers, he comes in every six months or so & completely buys me out of jelly babies.
Nothing else, mind you... Just jelly babies... then he always goes off saying he's wanted over the other side of the universe or back in the 16th century.... seriously, you see all sorts in this job!"

(Allsorts... geddit?!  I'll get me coat... :P  )

Cheers!

Russell

Volpone

This relates to my noncanon Doctor costume.  I suspect it is a young 1st Doctor and not a later iteration but that's irrelevant.  The point is, I found the shirt I wear for it at a Target around 2005.  Loved it.  But eventually it wore out and by 2007 even a place like Target didn't have the same shirt again so I had to replace it with something I didn't like as much for a daily wear shirt.  But although (or because?  Hold that thought) it is a bit too ratty to wear daily, if I only break it out for special occasions I can probably get a few more years out of it.  It has French cuffs and I picked up some cufflinks that looked great with it.  And then I lost one.  So when I turned it into a The Doctor shirt, I splurged on some "?" key typewriter cufflinks.  Then one of them broke.  A jeweler friend said he could fix it but that it would wind up costing more than a new set of cufflinks so it went in the change plate with the other cufflink that was missing its mate.  Then I realized I could wear this completely mismatched pair of cufflinks and it would fit with the style of a classic Doctor costume. 

That's a long way to get to the point, but my point is, I feel like the 2nd Doctor was on the mark regarding the Doctor's clothes, in that they were a little shabby in some ways.  The TARDIS (at least in the classic series) wasn't terribly reliable.  And even if it was, you'd have to be at least a little careful to avoid damaging the spacetime continuum to get a shirt or pair of cufflinks.  Or that tie you really liked that you bought in a Mall in Hawai'i.  But what store was it?  After hundreds of years it's easy to lose track.  So it makes sense to me that The Doctor would wear worn out, threadbare clothes, because he found a shirt or a tie or something he really liked and he couldn't get the TARDIS back to where he bought it.  Or he'd already been back enough times and bought up enough versions of it that he couldn't risk bumping into himself or showing up on security cameras in 2 different places simultaneously or something so he had to make do with the last one he had. 

Also, Jelly Babies. 
"My dear Litefoot, I've got a lantern and a pair of waders, and possibly the most fearsome piece of hand artillery in all England. What could possibly go wrong?"
-The Doctor.

redfern

Not about jelly babies, but something of similar size...

Remember those budget minded bags or buckets of "green army men" that were (and still are, I guess) sold at discount stores, injection molded in a semi-pliable plastic?  Some packs came with absurdly under scaled vehicles like jeeps or tanks that had no undercarriage, just a hollow space underneath?

Were there ever any Doctor Who themed sets of a similar nature?  Bags of Daleks and Cybermen, maybe some of those "army men" thrown in to represent UNIT soldiers?  I imagine if something like that were produced in the mid 70s, such packs might have contained a Tom Baker figurine and a hollow shell of a police box with no actual bottom, likely undersized.

I suspect nothing similar existed, but it's easy to imagine it could have.

What motivated this question?  Some company will be releasing  sets later this year that will contain similar scaled (roughly 2 inches) figurines based on Star Trek, one focusing on the 1966 series and another upon "Next Generation".  The sets will not contain "armies" of figures, just single castings of specific crew and some select aliens.  I also suspect they will NOT be frugally priced like those vintage army figures.  Somebody daydreamed of Trek themed army men packs available in the 70s (when that person was a kid, I imagine), and that got me wondering if DW was ever marketed that way.

Sincerely,

Bill

Jam Jar Lurker

Somewhere around the late Eighties I bought a box of 50 Daleks and 50 Cybermen. They were dark blue plastic, maybe about height of Lego minifigs. They were extremely detailed and accurate (the Cybermen were Earthshock style). I think they were for use in a USA role playing game and were intended to be painted.

Francïs
"Have courage, and be kind... Where there is kindness, there is goodness. And where there is goodness, there is magic."

redfern

Quote from: Jam Jar Lurker on Jul 09, 2021, 01:32 pmSomewhere around the late Eighties I bought a box of 50 Daleks and 50 Cybermen. They were dark blue plastic, maybe about height of Lego minifigs. They were extremely detailed and accurate (the Cybermen were Earthshock style). I think they were for use in a USA role playing game and were intended to be painted.

If it's the same game I'm remembering, it was developed by FASA which also had a license for "Star Trek".  I purchased the core set and an "extension" for the Daleks, but never played it.  I do recall FASA offered gaming figurines, but I never saw them.  I thought they were pewter and they were sold in packs of 3 at the most.  Then again, that was almost 40 years ago and I'm sure my memory is faulty.

But whatever their origin and intended purpose, I bet that was cool having that many figurines to stage!  Whatever happened to that collection?  Still have it?

Sincerely,

Bill

Jam Jar Lurker

It was like getting the bag of green soldiers you mentioned; an instant army. A very random find and purchase from the local record store in the dim and distant past. They did battle it out on the shelves of my Target collection for many a year till I eventually bought a place of my own and donated a bunch of stuff to a friend (space being relative).

Francïs
"Have courage, and be kind... Where there is kindness, there is goodness. And where there is goodness, there is magic."

russellsuthern

Vaguely related, but of interest I think.
A little macabre fact I picked up from daytime telly the other day.

Apparently, back in 1864 when Frys created the iconic sweet, they called them "Unclaimed Babies"

Which does sound a lot more disturbing than "Jelly Babies..."

Regards,

Russell

Andrew Harvey

'They say the evil one eats babies...'