Scratch Built Doctor Who Matt Smith Tardis Interior Model Thread

Started by robajob, Jul 24, 2017, 10:57 pm

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robajob

Quote from: galacticprobe on Sep 06, 2017, 03:52 am

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I can't help it! It's the anxiety and anticipation!

Quote from: robajob on Sep 05, 2017, 09:44 pm
...the post of honorary adopted cousin twice removed, may be available in the very near future should you be interested.

I'll take it! :D (Though, I never could figure out that whole cousin thing with the "X" number of times removed. "Twice removed." Does that mean he's been thrown out twice, but keeps coming back? ???)

Quote from: robajob on Sep 05, 2017, 09:44 pm
I thought you might like this part of the thread, especially as it dealt with the details on the consoles!

I'm always greatly interested when it comes to console details.

Quote from: robajob on Sep 05, 2017, 09:44 pm
I was just about to commit Harakiri when I saw your comment about the 5 stars and pegged on maximum envy, so thank you for that, hello again cruel world!

Worry not, Rob. I've known Karsten for many years now, and if you knew him for as long as I have you would know that he was being sarcastic. (He's done it before... sort of his way of saying as an amateur model-builder you're doing a magnificent job, and can only imagine what higher level of detail you could go to with this if you were a professional film and TV model-builder... if you could get any higher detail on this already super-high-detailed working model. He wasn't slighting you, so don't hold that against him. It's the type-written word: no inflection; no emotion - very difficult to get sarcasm across with the humor it's intended to have with it.)

Dino.


Hi Dino,
            Don't get too stressed about the adopted cousin twice removed position, I said IT MIGHT BE BECOMING AVAILABLE, no guarantees!
And yes, just like a bad penny that keeps on coming back, it does mean he's been thrown out, TWICE!

As to the console details, it's that eye for detail that you have that must keep you interested.

I did pick up a slight tang of irony in karsten's comment, so don't worry about taking it the wrong way, sob, I just know that I did my best and that was all I could do, wah. I'm already booked in for a one to one counseling session next week to get over the anguish and pain that this drama has caused me and who are you calling amateur, oh well yet another session required!!
Rob.

Angelus Lupus

Have I said wow before? I feel like I have, but it's worth repeating. The detail on this really sells the illusion of full scale!
A mixed-up non-conformist, trying to fit in.

nelissya

Quote from: robajob on Sep 05, 2017, 10:21 pm
привет nelissya,
                        Thank you so much for your comment, to answer the first of your questions, yes it really is possible to do that, as is evident with this build thread, although it did take a long time, a lot of sleepless nights and used up quite a few little grey cells!
Just as food for thought, if you thought the consoles were dull boring lifeless consoles, you would be wrong, all the parts that move on the real thing actually do move on this model as well. So the knobs all turn, the handles crank and the sliders slide etc.

In answer to your question about the overall size of the entire model in scale with the 5" figures, it is in Imperial/Metric;
42"/1070mm Width, 30"/760mm Depth and has a total Height of 21"/530mm.
The Main Console floor is 15¾"/400mm Diameter and the Main Console is a Hexagon with an outside diameter of 9"/240mm .

So quite large for a model, if you are scaling up for your own, what bigger scale were you thinking of?
The actual set is on the large size, so depending on your scale, maybe a spare house or better still a warehouse would be called for!?
If I can be of any help with regards to further information, then just mail me, a lot of my sizes were guesstimates based on screen grabs, but the AFT has an excellent set which you could possibly use as a start, scale up, refine, accurize, redraw, which is exactly how I started this project.
I hope that this information, basic as it is, is of use to you, I will look forward to your build.
Пока́ Rob.


Hi! Thank you for your answer. Before readind your build I was worrying about the height of the construction, but now I see that the width is the main problem.
I have two BJD dolls, one has a height of 42cm and another 62cm. Earlier I was thinking about the console room for the bigger one, but obviously it wan't be possible in my room ;D so now I'll start to scale all this for the "small" doll 42cm)) And prepare for the size about 3.7*2.7*1.9m. And bigger, because I want... well, will need to make a ceiling for upper motors.

I think I will mail you, if something with the AFT set goes wrong. As I can see it's really a great start for scaling and modelling.

robajob

Quote from: Angelus Lupus on Sep 06, 2017, 11:31 am
Have I said wow before? I feel like I have, but it's worth repeating. The detail on this really sells the illusion of full scale!

Hi Angelus Lupus,
                         Thank you so very much for your comment, I am very appreciative of all your positive input throughout the build thread and I am very pleased that you think that the detail on the Tardis sells the illusion of full scale, after all that's what a model should attempt to do.

In the near future I am going to be working on a 5" Victorian Governess Clara figure to match my son's Victorian attire Dr Who, in an attempt to recreate the scene where Clara sees the interior of the Tardis for the first time in the Snowmen (my son's favourite part of this episode), so when complete I will post some pictures with the figures in position, hopefully the model will still achieve the illusion of scale.
These will be posted on the gallery for the completed model http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=7734.msg97722#msg97722, so I would be interested if you think it succeeds.
Rob.

robajob

Quote from: nelissya on Sep 06, 2017, 12:16 pm
Quote from: robajob on Sep 05, 2017, 10:21 pm
привет nelissya,
                        Thank you so much for your comment, to answer the first of your questions, yes it really is possible to do that, as is evident with this build thread, although it did take a long time, a lot of sleepless nights and used up quite a few little grey cells!
Just as food for thought, if you thought the consoles were dull boring lifeless consoles, you would be wrong, all the parts that move on the real thing actually do move on this model as well. So the knobs all turn, the handles crank and the sliders slide etc.

In answer to your question about the overall size of the entire model in scale with the 5" figures, it is in Imperial/Metric;
42"/1070mm Width, 30"/760mm Depth and has a total Height of 21"/530mm.
The Main Console floor is 15¾"/400mm Diameter and the Main Console is a Hexagon with an outside diameter of 9"/240mm .

So quite large for a model, if you are scaling up for your own, what bigger scale were you thinking of?
The actual set is on the large size, so depending on your scale, maybe a spare house or better still a warehouse would be called for!?
If I can be of any help with regards to further information, then just mail me, a lot of my sizes were guesstimates based on screen grabs, but the AFT has an excellent set which you could possibly use as a start, scale up, refine, accurize, redraw, which is exactly how I started this project.
I hope that this information, basic as it is, is of use to you, I will look forward to your build.
Пока́ Rob.


Hi! Thank you for your answer. Before readind your build I was worrying about the height of the construction, but now I see that the width is the main problem.
I have two BJD dolls, one has a height of 42cm and another 62cm. Earlier I was thinking about the console room for the bigger one, but obviously it wan't be possible in my room ;D so now I'll start to scale all this for the "small" doll 42cm)) And prepare for the size about 3.7*2.7*1.9m. And bigger, because I want... well, will need to make a ceiling for upper motors.

I think I will mail you, if something with the AFT set goes wrong. As I can see it's really a great start for scaling and modelling.


Hi Neliyssa,
                 Wow that really is going to be a very large scale. I was aware of the 30cm Big Chief Studios Doctor, which in itself is very impressive, but 42cm, that's really big, the figure must be stunning at that scale.
I stopped short of creating the ceiling structure on my Tardis as weight, access and usability had to be considered, so that my son could play with it easily and with my assistance move it around.
It sounds like you are actually going to motorise the Whirly Gig so that it rotates? Impressive.
May I ask if this project is for personal or commercial use? The sheer scale seems to indicate a permanent fixture, you would need a crane to move it!

I am so pleased that you found the AFT model a good starting point, as I have indicated throughout the build thread I have extensively altered literally every bit of it, but a lot of the groundwork had already been undertaken, so in conjunction with screen grabs and the google maps images of the actual Tardis interior of the  police box at Earl's Court, it gave me a very good beginning to my project.
I also found an excellent 3d model of the Tardis for use with blender which was extremely useful in identifying some of the exact details.

If I can be of any further assistance, then please don't hesitate to contact me.
Rob.

nelissya

Quote from: robajob on Sep 06, 2017, 11:09 pm

Hi Neliyssa,
                 Wow that really is going to be a very large scale. I was aware of the 30cm Big Chief Studios Doctor, which in itself is very impressive, but 42cm, that's really big, the figure must be stunning at that scale.
I stopped short of creating the ceiling structure on my Tardis as weight, access and usability had to be considered, so that my son could play with it easily and with my assistance move it around.
It sounds like you are actually going to motorise the Whirly Gig so that it rotates? Impressive.
May I ask if this project is for personal or commercial use? The sheer scale seems to indicate a permanent fixture, you would need a crane to move it!

I am so pleased that you found the AFT model a good starting point, as I have indicated throughout the build thread I have extensively altered literally every bit of it, but a lot of the groundwork had already been undertaken, so in conjunction with screen grabs and the google maps images of the actual Tardis interior of the  police box at Earl's Court, it gave me a very good beginning to my project.
I also found an excellent 3d model of the Tardis for use with blender which was extremely useful in identifying some of the exact details.

If I can be of any further assistance, then please don't hesitate to contact me.
Rob.


Hi, Rob,
Yeah, I want all this to rotate and to glow with lights)) I have a small console room from Pyramyd of Mars (4th Doctor) and it has a moving rotor and lights all around, so the next one going to be more complicated xD
For now it's for personal use and a doll-festival, but after that fest I want to try to find a byer for it. And no, it's obviously going to be with a possibility of transportation, not permanent fixture, so I could assemble and disassemble it. Otherize I couldn't get it out of my room))

robajob

Hi Nelissya,
                OK, this is going to be a fantastic project at that scale with it being lit and moving parts.
Good to hear that you have already thought of the assembly/disassembly and transportation, as obviously at this scale, this beast is going to be big and heavy.
I would be very interested (as I am sure everyone else on here would as well), in seeing some pictures of that small console room from the Pyramid of Mars that you have already made.

So as this is for your personal use, I would be more than willing to make the files that I drew up to 5" scale using Microsoft publisher for my Tardis project available to you, to give you even more for you to work with to scale up for your project.
As I have said previously, I started with the AFT set, which is good, but I ended up redrawing pretty much all of it for my project. So in short, this could give you a massive leap forward in your scaling and design stage.
I am not saying that my model is 100% accurate, but I did an awful lot of research, a lot of which was done on here as well as the other sources I have already mentioned, all culminating in what I would call a good approximation.
There are quite a few files for all the individual parts that you could then manipulate as you see fit.
Let me know if this would be of interest/help to you and we can take it from there.
Rob.

nelissya

Quote from: robajob on Sep 07, 2017, 10:05 pm
Hi Nelissya,
                OK, this is going to be a fantastic project at that scale with it being lit and moving parts.
Good to hear that you have already thought of the assembly/disassembly and transportation, as obviously at this scale, this beast is going to be big and heavy.
I would be very interested (as I am sure everyone else on here would as well), in seeing some pictures of that small console room from the Pyramid of Mars that you have already made.


Hi, Rob!

Well, I thought I have shown here my console  ??? but obviously 4 years before I was too exited about this forum and too embarrassed to post something of my craft here))) I think I will post this build here, I still have all inprogress pictures and a few more new photos from last weekend festival))

Quote from: robajob on Sep 07, 2017, 10:05 pm
So as this is for your personal use, I would be more than willing to make the files that I drew up to 5" scale using Microsoft publisher for my Tardis project available to you, to give you even more for you to work with to scale up for your project.
As I have said previously, I started with the AFT set, which is good, but I ended up redrawing pretty much all of it for my project. So in short, this could give you a massive leap forward in your scaling and design stage.
I am not saying that my model is 100% accurate, but I did an awful lot of research, a lot of which was done on here as well as the other sources I have already mentioned, all culminating in what I would call a good approximation.
There are quite a few files for all the individual parts that you could then manipulate as you see fit.
Let me know if this would be of interest/help to you and we can take it from there.
Rob.


Never enough research! There is always something to improve and detalized, especially when the scale is bigger and the materials are different )) I already have a few dimensions of our 12th console 1:1, that I'm going to post here from permission of my friends, but not the console room measurements. And also the big question about not-really-human proportions of BJD. Going to be so interesting and so crazy...

nelissya

Quote from: robajob on Sep 07, 2017, 10:05 pm
So as this is for your personal use, I would be more than willing to make the files that I drew up to 5" scale using Microsoft publisher for my Tardis project available to you, to give you even more for you to work with to scale up for your project.


Sorry, have I sent you a PM or something went wrong?.. *lost in forum settings*

robajob

Quote from: nelissya on Sep 08, 2017, 12:51 pm

Hi, Rob!
Well, I thought I have shown here my console  ??? but obviously 4 years before I was too exited about this forum and too embarrassed to post something of my craft here))) I think I will post this build here, I still have all in progress pictures and a few more new photos from last weekend festival))

Never enough research! There is always something to improve and detalized, especially when the scale is bigger and the materials are different )) I already have a few dimensions of our 12th console 1:1, that I'm going to post here from permission of my friends, but not the console room measurements. And also the big question about not-really-human proportions of BJD. Going to be so interesting and so crazy...


Quote from: nelissya on Sep 08, 2017, 01:45 pm
Sorry, have I sent you a PM or something went wrong?.. *lost in forum settings*

Hi Nelissya,
                I will look forward to seeing your work on here in the near future.
There is an awful lot of stuff available out there for this subject and an awful lot of really useful information on here as well.
But, I will send you my drawings and research material for your benefit.

I have received your PM and have responded on here, as well as sending you a personal email.
Rob.

robajob

"Did you say something cruel to the TARDIS while I was getting changed?'
'No! Of course not!'
'Did you call her fat?'
'What?'
'Because she's not fat. She's just bigger on the inside."

So if it's personality that counts, let's see if we can give the old girl a little something extra, here is build thread section 10.
The basic skeleton of the Tardis was finished, the fleshing out stages had commenced, some light had been shed on the subject and a spot of home decorating had been started, all as per the design drawings.
So to give the old girl a bit of personality, we'll have to handle her with care...
Section 10; Handrails + Balustrading.

The Handrails on the Tardis were a task that called for delicacy and tact, so I was stuffed!
They were formed from 6 mm copper tubing, frequently used in plumbing, having used this product before on another project, it made perfect sense to utilise it for the purpose of making the Tardis Handrails.
It's lightweight, malleable and given the right support, performs admirably.


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The Handrails were all shaped from the 6 mm copper tubing by hand.
This involved forming them around different sized PVC pipe to achieve the correct bend/angle/gradient.
Temporary supports of 2 mm styrene would indicate the correct Handrail height.


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There were some interesting parts to shape...


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And there were some very interesting parts to shape...


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One things for sure, there was an awful lot of it and an awful lot of bending going on.


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The Balusters were cut from 1 mm styrene sheet, marked for continuity, heat formed over a PVC pipe using a heat gun to give the correct curvatures and final shaped by hand.


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The copper Handrails were affixed at base points by drilling into the Basement Floor to insert a metal rod, over which a plastic sleeve would slip of the correct diameter to fit inside the copper tubing.


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Fixing points for the copper Handrails into the insulation foam chairs was undertaken in a similar manner. When fixing into the staircases, steps or 6 mm ply landing floor, a small pin temporarily held the Baluster in place.


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At the junction of the copper Handrail and Baluster, a notch was cut into the copper into which the Baluster could snuggly fit.


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Again on the landing where support was required, a metal rod was drilled into the MDF Tardis support and a reciprocating hole drilled into the copper in the correct position.


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In one instance, because of a slight alteration in the overall design, the lack of one step into the Basement area, as described earlier in the build thread, some artistic license and ingenuity was called upon.
In other words 2 No. of the Balusters were in the wrong place and intersected with each other.
The artistic license and ingenuity was to intertwine them to make them fit!


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The Entrance Corridor Walkway Handrail junction was again fixed using the rod and sleeve method, drilled into the styrene frame.


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All was continued until, finally, finished!


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At this point the Handrails and Balusters were removed for painting.


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The 35 No. Balusters were painted with acrylic paints, on both sides.
The Handrails were also painted with acrylics at this time.


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Once completed, the Handrails and Balusters were reinstated to their original position and permanently fixed.
Temporary support was left in place until dry.


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A few beauty shots of the completed Handrails and Balusters.

So as far as stage 10 Handrails + Balustrading goes, that's all for now folks!

Davros Skaro

WOW, you certainly did a great job on those handrails & Balusters! Looks very fiddly to me.

Excellent job indeed, love this build, looking forward to seeing more!  :) :D

Chris.
Chris.

Angelus Lupus

A mixed-up non-conformist, trying to fit in.

galacticprobe

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Holy mother of crap!


Good grief, Rob! When you post an Update, you post an Update!

What an amazing model!

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

russellsuthern

Words absolutely fail me!
The amount of work & detail that has gone into this is simply staggering!!!


Wow!


Russell