Quote from: Rassilons Rod on Sep 03, 2024, 09:01 pm

Quote from: drgrackle on Sep 03, 2024, 04:10 pmFrom my research, it appears that in The War Machines, the roof section was replaced. The original was a 43 inch square, while The War Machines roof was a 43x45inch rectangle (to account for the now shorter sides). In 1971 another new roof was made, as its clear by Season 8 that the roof almost overhangs several of the corner posts, which it previously did not, so my estimate for the new roof is around 45x47inch (based on the almost-overhang).

However, weren't the sides narrowed?  I'm sure there are pictures that show this - the text on the signage is obscured.

That would definitely cause an overhang with the original roof too.

The original box seen in 1963.


The War Machines roof.

I believe it's 2 inches wider viewed from the front, as the original roof doesnt quite reach the halfway point of the corner posts, but as you mentioned, the sides were narrowed, removing the necessity to make the roof wider from front-to-back, as the roof sits comfortable on top.

As seen in the Ice Warriors, there is a small strip of wood that doesn't quite meet the roof section as such, there is a hole visible.



And then for season 8, there had to be a new roof, as it looks bigger, and definitely rests over more of the corner posts.

It does look excessively close to the doorway in the screenshot 🤔

Well, the spacing on the glass shelving turned out to be a minor issue - it looks like when they set them up, the crew had the stand upside down compared to how it was in Full Circle (which is what I used as reference to make the shelves).

For the other problems, I moved the doorway, but just can't make it match perfectly.


Everything is nearly right, but the white roundels in the background are always too small. Either the BBC used an odd lens that makes them seem closer, or they must have moved the 12-roundel flat closer in to do that shot. I just can't think why they would do that, as nothing would have been visible that shouldn't have been.

A few more knick-knacks for Romana's table.


While trying to match the shot from the show, I discovered that the spacing on my version of the glass shelving unit is wrong, which isn't a big deal to fix. More of a problem, is that I just couldn't match the view through the doorway (where you can see two columns of white roundels). I have to conclude that they went off-plan for the corridor set and shifted the doorway across a bit. Fingers-crossed I can match it without anything breaking...

Quote from: drgrackle on Sep 03, 2024, 04:10 pmFrom my research, it appears that in The War Machines, the roof section was replaced. The original was a 43 inch square, while The War Machines roof was a 43x45inch rectangle (to account for the now shorter sides). In 1971 another new roof was made, as its clear by Season 8 that the roof almost overhangs several of the corner posts, which it previously did not, so my estimate for the new roof is around 45x47inch (based on the almost-overhang).

However, weren't the sides narrowed?  I'm sure there are pictures that show this - the text on the signage is obscured.

That would definitely cause an overhang with the original roof too.

From my research, it appears that in The War Machines, the roof section was replaced. The original was a 43 inch square, while The War Machines roof was a 43x45inch rectangle (to account for the now shorter sides). In 1971 another new roof was made, as its clear by Season 8 that the roof almost overhangs several of the corner posts, which it previously did not, so my estimate for the new roof is around 45x47inch (based on the almost-overhang).

Yes, agreed! I've always been fond of it, also cos I love old wood and brass things 😁

The steps in situ, waiting for Tegan to blunder in through the doors.


I also tried out a different effect for the roundels, but I think it makes them look metallic, rather than lights now.

Quote from: Rassilons Rod on Sep 02, 2024, 06:36 am

Quote from: MttElby on Sep 02, 2024, 03:35 amA comparison with the actual prop:

Oh that's really nice!

Thanks. For me it's an iconic part of Logopolis, so I wanted to include it, even though where it comes from and where it disappears to, is never revealed.

Tony was quite exhaustive in his measurements and I'm not sure I've seen DW1200's plans.

But in either case, it was so long ago, that I'm not sure anyone can say for sure if it was modified or fully replaced, at any point in it's career. I think the best we can do is obtain the measurements.

I don't believe there are any documents (not public anyway) that say what was planned to be done on it.

I suspect the team at Shawcraft(?) were probably just told, "FIX HER UP!" and left to get on with it.