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Started by chriskingbees, Jun 26, 2009, 01:40 pm

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mantamatt

Aug 03, 2006, 09:45 am #15 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:30 pm by scarfwearer
Hi Spiff,

To get the thumbnails in a row then you can use tables. Here's an example. To stop the code being interpreted I have put a '-' character in the code which you would have to remove (you can also use the tag icons in the post reply window to write this code.

[-table]
[-tr]           <-------new row
[-td]
---> put your first linked thumbnail code in here
[-/td]
[-td]
---> put your second linked thumbnail code in here
[-/td]
[-/tr]
[-/table]

The 'tr' markup specifies a new row in the tableand each 'td' is an item in that row


Incidentally, great photos which will be of use to a lot of people here!

mantamatt

Aug 03, 2006, 10:05 am #16 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:30 pm by scarfwearer
Just noticed something interesting on your excellent detail photographs. Some members have harped on in the past about how the door was hung the wrong way round. The second to last picture you posted shows just next to the handle a couple of holes and indentations where a hinge used to be. Because of it's location this means that the door must have once been hung the other way around.

Also, the last picture you posted hints strongly at the  construction method used at the top of the corner posts which has long been suspected.

Excellent photos!

Scarfwearer

Aug 03, 2006, 10:23 am #17 Last Edit: Nov 15, 2012, 10:34 pm by Scarfwearer
Tables are great if you want more layout control, but you can also rely on ordinary wrapping layout:

In your posting you will find:

.....[/IMG][/URL]

[URL=...][IMG]....

i.e. two newlines between between the end of one thumbnail and the start of the next.

If you just replace the two newlines with a space, like this:

.....[/IMG][/URL] [URL=...][IMG]....


the pictures will come out on the same line, and will break onto new rows at a sensible place. Try changing the width of your browser window and see how these wrap:

th_060802-Crich_027.jpg th_060802-Crich_028.jpg th_060802-Crich_021.jpg th_060802-Crich_024.jpg th_060802-Crich_036.jpg

To put codes like [URL] in a posting, you can use HTML literals, as described in the FAQ thread: How do I add hypertext/thumbnails to posts?

Crispin

dalethetimelord

Aug 03, 2006, 10:45 am #18 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:30 pm by scarfwearer
Firstly, fantastic photo's, thank you so much for sharing them.  One of your shots really has made me very happy, and it's of the open window.  Crich, a long time ago, sealed all the windows shut and removed (but kept) the mechanisms, and it pleases me no end to find they're reversed this daft decision at long last and reinstated the window hinges.  This will now allow ventiliation back into the box, saving the inside from becoming damp and mouldy.

hb88banzai

Aug 03, 2006, 03:25 pm #19 Last Edit: Jul 05, 2014, 09:41 am by hb88banzai
Quote from: mantawrays board=policebox thread=1145712237 post=1154599544Just noticed something interesting on your excellent detail photographs. Some members have harped on in the past about how the door was hung the wrong way round. The second to last picture you posted shows just next to the handle a couple of holes and indentations where a hinge used to be. Because of it's location this means that the door must have once been hung the other way around.


I'm not so sure about this.  If you look at the spacing of these holes, they appear to line up perfectly with the screws on the handle.  I think what we are seeing is just a repositioning of the handle further in from the edge at some point in the fairly recent past.

In fact, there appears to be more than one set, suggested by another partially painted over hole about 5/8" lower than the two exposed holes (unless the handle had 6 screws, which it doesn't), so it may well have been repositioned a few times.  A few pictures posted elsewhere on this site last year show that prior to the refit the handle was in the same position as now, and the exposed holes along side it are also there.*

Curiously, there even appear to be the traces of two holes that were filled in with putty about 3-3/8" below the top set, and which have the same spacing between them (together with the trace of an indentation from the handle's foot).  I'm not sure I see filler the right distance below the bottom set of exposed holes, however, so these bumps and marks might be from the bottom foot, which would put the bow of the handle about in-line with the lock rather than in the very low position it is currently at.

* Note that one of those other pictures elsewhere on this site shows the edge of the door in some detail, and one can see some fairly unmistakable marks of a mortise lock having been originally in the door at the current lock's position (vertically), which would lend some credence to the current orientation of the door having been that way for a very long time.

EDIT: What I took to be signs of a former motise lock in Crich's door is in fact merely a door construction detail. The Crich door was built using through tenons on the rails that were then wedged top and bottom from the outer edge of the vertical stiles. This is a lower quality, lower cost type of door construction. It makes it much easier to initially get a tight door, but makes it more likely to suffer wear over time from weathering as moisture can more easily get in the joints and loosen things up. All evidence now points to the "inside-out" door to be a design feature of the Crich type Metbox.

ironageman

Aug 03, 2006, 04:35 pm #20 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:31 pm by scarfwearer
I agree; in any case, the beading on the door is an exterior-of-door sort of detail.

Hey, nice clear pictures of that telephone cupboard! It looks as if they've removed the instruction sign from inside; that's a pity.
leonard cohen  1934-2016  standing by the window where the light is strong

spiffer

Aug 03, 2006, 07:20 pm #21 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:31 pm by scarfwearer
Crispin and Mantawrays,

Many thanks for your assistance with the laying out of thumbnails.
As you can see I have now rearranged them in my two earlier posts.
I did try to put spaces between them when I wrote the message last night but I couldn't get it to work properly. When I tried again this afternoon it worked perfectly.

I think the holes in the door are from previous attachments of the door handle (as suggested by HB88Banzai). It has probably been pulled off several times during the life of the box, and then re-fitted in a slightly different position each time.

The photo of the roof does clearly show a vertical split / joint line in the corner post in line with the end of the sign box (ring beam?). This is most clearly seen on the top of the post to the right of the door. I still can't work out for certain whether the extra bit of corner post is part of the sign box or of the first roof step, though I currently favour the latter.

ironageman,
The instruction sign is now inside the box on top of the desk as can be seen in this photo:
th_060802-Crich_019.jpg

I had to take the photo through the window as the door was locked.

I also spotted this:
th_060802-Crich_012.jpg th_060802-Crich_014.jpg

I don't remember seeing any photos of this before though I'm sure there must be some on this board somewhere.

Spiff

TG

Aug 04, 2006, 10:25 am #22 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:32 pm by scarfwearer
Hi Spiff
I just wanted to add my thanks for those great Crich box pictures.

Great to see it so close-up and showing its concreteyness, I get so used to seeing the replicas, I forget how un-wooden it looks.

Very nice pictures of the window construction too!
TG

hb88banzai

Aug 04, 2006, 02:21 pm #23 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:32 pm by scarfwearer
Quote from: timegirl board=policebox thread=1145712237 post=1154687158Hi Spiff
I just wanted to add my thanks for those great Crich box pictures.TG


Yes, most definitely!   :o   

Spiffer, you are the man!  Thank you, thank you, thank you!

These are the best pics since Mark's lamented departure meant the pulling of all his wonderful photos of Crich.  I hazard to say these are even better - more detail - great angles - and the shots with the tape measure are wonderful!

Lots and lots of questions answered with just a few photos.  Details, details, details, and more details.  I am in heaven.

Finally, that last shot of the interior was to die for.  Soooooo much detail I've been wondering about for sooooo long.  You can even see construction details - like the desk being made of planks instead of one piece - and that little "Break Glass" holder for the First Aid key!

I don't suppose you have any more pics of the inside?  (Greedy? Who me?  ::)  )

Just remember, "if anybody asks you if you're a God, say yes!"  ;)

hb88banzai

Aug 04, 2006, 02:27 pm #24 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:32 pm by scarfwearer
By the way, speaking of that interior shot of Spiffer's - does anybody know what that torn piece of paper is on the surface of the inner door to the phone compartment?  It looks like a sign with a whole lot of writing on it.  Anybody know what it says?

Also, what on earth is that long white contraption screwed to the side of the phone compartment?  Looks like a cross between a cup holder and an umbrella stand.

purpleblancmange

Aug 04, 2006, 02:46 pm #25 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:32 pm by scarfwearer
Quote from: hb88banzai board=policebox thread=1145712237 post=1154701655By the way, speaking of that interior shot of Spiffer's - does anybody know what that torn piece of paper is on the surface of the inner door to the phone compartment?  It looks like a sign with a whole lot of writing on it.  Anybody know what it says?

Also, what on earth is that long white contraption screwed to the side of the phone compartment?  Looks like a cross between a cup holder and an umbrella stand.


I don't know what the sign said, but I have a feeling Dale does - however, the white contraption is a fire extinguisher holder.  We used to have them just like this in my old school.

hb88banzai

Aug 04, 2006, 03:19 pm #26 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:32 pm by scarfwearer
Quote from: spiffer board=policebox thread=1145712237 post=1154632807The photo of the roof does clearly show a vertical split / joint line in the corner post in line with the end of the sign box (ring beam?). This is most clearly seen on the top of the post to the right of the door. I still can't work out for certain whether the extra bit of corner post is part of the sign box or of the first roof step, though I currently favour the latter.


I have a picture that I think was one of Mark's postings showing a closeup of one of the pillar tops.  The way the seams went, how things were weathered, and where the paint sagged, etc., I think it likely that these extra corner post bits are part of the signs and "ring beam" unit rather than the roof.

Specifically, there was a lot more buildup where it joined the sign than you'd expect from just debris and paint (it looked exactly like a sloppy moulding in shape and texture - though it is possible it is just sloppy cementing in of the piece, as with the seams where it meets the rest of the post).  This was in direct contrast to the slightly visible seam/undercut were the roof/step unit met the sign top.  Also, there was a sagging of the paint where the pillar fill-piece met the front surface of the roof step, just like you would expect if there was a seam there.

Might be misinterpreting things, but that's what I am seeing.

Of course, it's also possible these little details were separate pieces altogether, which were added (cemented in with mortar) during the final phases of construction.

It is interesting to speculate that these changes in the post and "ring beam" units (casting and construction) from the Barnet style boxes might have been developed to solve a problem with leaking due to the fronts of the old sign housings separating from the one piece pillars ( whether due to aging and/or poor installation), as is apparent in some of the sample pics shown in the whole "ring beam" debate here . . .   

http://tardisboard.proboards43.com/index.cgi?board=build&action=display&thread=1115023419&page=1

. . . and on the page following that.

hb88banzai

Aug 04, 2006, 03:23 pm #27 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:32 pm by scarfwearer
Quote from: purpleblancmange board=policebox thread=1145712237 post=1154702766. . . the white contraption is a fire extinguisher holder.  We used to have them just like this in my old school.


And right inside the front door - makes perfect sense.  Thanks.

hb88banzai

Aug 04, 2006, 03:36 pm #28 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:33 pm by scarfwearer
Hmmm.  Another question - Does that little red key box say "NOOK", as in "FIRST AID NOOK KEY" - "BREAK GLASS"?  Not quite sure from the photo (looks like it was done on an old plastic strip labeler).

Wonder what kind of lock (and key) on the First Aid door?  Wish we had a picture . . .

hb88banzai

Aug 04, 2006, 03:40 pm #29 Last Edit: Feb 07, 2010, 07:33 pm by scarfwearer
And is that grey box-shaped thing sitting on the floor at the bottom of the picture the heater, perhaps?