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Started by warmcanofcoke, Feb 22, 2013, 06:49 pm

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warmcanofcoke

Feb 22, 2013, 06:49 pm Last Edit: Feb 26, 2013, 01:12 pm by warmcanofcoke
Coming to the stage where I will be shopping for wood and perhaps moldings to make the corner posts of the Tom Yardley Jones style Police Box.

The Curved sections of the the posts - where the corners would be normally. How wide are they? would you say that it was about 2" wide?

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why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

DoctorWho8

Feb 22, 2013, 08:06 pm #1 Last Edit: Feb 22, 2013, 10:37 pm by warmcanofcoke
I think 1 1/2 diameter looks right.
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Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

kiwidoc

Agreed.   I believe the molding should fill .75" of the 1" gap so that would make a circular diameter of 1.5"

warmcanofcoke

why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

warmcanofcoke

Feb 22, 2013, 10:59 pm #4 Last Edit: Feb 22, 2013, 11:04 pm by warmcanofcoke
I really appreciate your input and you guys did wonderfully - very sound reasoning. - however I'm having one of those moments where I realized something after the fact.
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The whole post is shown as 6.5" and the flat section is 4" -  would make the actual moldings have a 2.5" diameter circle?
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

DoctorWho8

My suggestion is build templates out of cardboard.
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

galacticprobe

Feb 23, 2013, 06:09 am #6 Last Edit: Feb 23, 2013, 06:18 am by galacticprobe
Quote from: warmcanofcoke on Feb 22, 2013, 10:59 pm
...I'm having one of those moments where I realized something after the fact.

The whole post is shown as 6.5" and the flat section is 4" -  would make the actual moldings have a 2.5" diameter circle?


I don't know if this will help at all, but:
TYJ-Post.jpg
(All measurements in inches, but not drawn to scale)

If the post is 6.5 inches wide, and the "flat" is only 4 inches wide, then that would leave only 1.25 inches "sticking out" on either side of the flat to equal the 6.5-inch total width. So the question is, after placing the quarter-round moulding in to make that "corner", how much is left visible (the part indicated by the red arrow and circle)? Surely if we could figure out that part of the above plans then we would know what diameter circle the moulding would make, and then what size quarter-round should be used?

Dino.
"What's wrong with being childish?! I like being childish." -3rd Doctor, "Terror of the Autons"

warmcanofcoke

Feb 23, 2013, 11:58 am #7 Last Edit: Feb 23, 2013, 09:02 pm by warmcanofcoke
Quote from: galacticprobe on Feb 23, 2013, 06:09 am
If the post is 6.5 inches wide, and the "flat" is only 4 inches wide, then that would leave only 1.25 inches "sticking out" on either side of the flat to equal the 6.5-inch total width. So the question is, after placing the quarter-round moulding in to make that "corner", how much is left visible (the part indicated by the red arrow and circle)? Surely if we could figure out that part of the above plans then we would know what diameter circle the moulding would make, and then what size quarter-round should be used?

Dino.


good point Dino. I think I'm going to make a cardboard model as Bill suggested.

edit* new template:
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The flat portion of the wooden beam of wood is now 4"

based on the Rulers in Photoshop the post with the 2" diameter molding is 6.5" wide.
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

timerotor

Feb 23, 2013, 10:19 pm #8 Last Edit: Feb 24, 2013, 12:23 am by timerotor
Hi, I'm pretty sure that the flat surface of the post is MORE than 4 inches. more like 4.5
the round mould, I can't find a record, probably 1 inch - or 1.5. hope this helps.
best,
MBHMBH TARDIS REF.jpg ;)
living, learning, loving, refurbing, & preserving!

warmcanofcoke

Feb 24, 2013, 02:07 am #9 Last Edit: Feb 24, 2013, 02:21 am by warmcanofcoke
Thank you Timerotor  ;D

Assuming the posts are still 6.5" across. It sounds like this is the layout.
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why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.

anson

Feb 24, 2013, 09:50 am #10 Last Edit: Feb 24, 2013, 10:07 am by anson
I've always been of the opinion that the corner posts have a 4.5 inch "flat" on the corner posts - here's two different Sketchup's that illustrate this;

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The wider version looks a lot better to me, the corner posts are 1.25 in my drawings.

I've always thought the Brachacki had wider "flats" on the corner posts too but that's a different story...

DoctorWho8

Welcome back Anson!
Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff

slidin_sidewayz

Wait a sec... Mark, you HAD the TYJ in your possession, but you didn't measure stuff????  :o

timerotor

Hi Slidin-sidwayz,
not true I'm afraid.  I never had it in my possession. I worked on site at Olympia

I was forbidden to take mouldings or measurements.
I said all that guff somewhere on the pages about restoring the prop. Which is why I took a photo of my hand as a guide.
sorry pal, but I help where I can  :)
MBH
living, learning, loving, refurbing, & preserving!

warmcanofcoke

and it is always much appreciated Timerotor   ;D
why doesn't the Guide mention them? - Oh, it's not very accurate.
Oh? - I'm researching the new edition.