St. John Ambulance sign

[littlekentucky]

These posts are very helpful.  What would you all suggest this sign be made of?  I plan on getting quotes from a local sign shop in the next month or so and would like to have my 'ducks' in a row so to speak.

[DoctorWho8]

They were probably originally painted metal.  But you could get by with plastic.
Bill Rudloff

[mechanoid]

And on the Hartnell front, this is a modern button from Canada -



Not quite a seal, but close.  Interesting, I think I've seen more "beastless" St. John crosses out of Canada than anywhere else - but then they often also put a maple leaf behind it.  Also, more often than not, the animal art they have used over the years often seemed much cruder - almost cartoonish.

Sydney Newman was Canadian! So....

[hb88banzai]

It would appear the Hartnell box was ahead of its time. Recently St. John Ambulance has started using a new logo sans lions & unicorns and without wording in the circular device.

[hb88banzai]

An interesting find . . .

Earl's Court Police Box c. 1999 -




What appears to be an exact match to the St. John plaque used on the Earl's Court Box -




I'll post an actual scan of this (with measurements) when I dig my scanner out from under.

[hb88banzai]

The St. John Plaque on the timber Police Box that was on display at the Radiolympia Exposition (1936) - (courtesy of markofrani) -



The St. John Plaque from a Mark 3 Police Box in the process of being refurbished (c. 1950 to early 1960s) -



The St. John Plaque on the Cushing movie TARDIS (1965) -



There are some minor differences, but many of the details are very close on all three. That said, I'd say the Cushing and Mark 3 plaques are a bit closer to each other than to the 1936 version, though again all three appear much closer to each other than to any of the other St. John plaque designs I've seen.

[markofrani]

Here's a badge from a 1948 Police box...

[hb88banzai]

Here's a badge from a 1948 Police box...

markofrani - again, wow! That's a closeup from that wonderful pic with the right-hinged phone door and the Bobby holding it open. I was wondering how good that pic got, now I know.

I don't suppose you can post a pic of that phone door somewhere?

Anyway - the St. John appears identical in most respects to the Olympia badge, except the animals are very subtly different. Fascinating. Hadn't noticed before that it had four screws as well.

Edit: Moved my other comments on this photo to the Mark 1, Mark 2, Mark 3? thread (link below) as they seemed more apropos there -
http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=2090.msg20604#msg20604

[flaming cog]

Does anyone have a good estimate for the logo on the Matt Smith box's diameter?

Thank you
Luke

[galacticprobe]

Does anyone have a good estimate for the logo on the Matt Smith box's diameter?

Thank you
Luke

It looks to be 5 inches in diameter, just like the Hartnell logo was. When you compare it to an image of an actual Police Box (or the Cushing Box, which were specified in the blueprints for 6-inch logos) the TV TARDIS' logos are visibly smaller.

BTW, if you'd like a logo to use in a build, PM me. I've got logos for Hartnell, Cushing, and Matt Smith created and sized.

I'd be more than happy to send them to you. I've already sent them to a few members and then seemed to be very pleased with them (although, if you read Scott's post here - http://tardisbuilders.com/index.php?topic=1123.75 - after I posted the Hartnell logo I created, he seemed a little frustrated... btw, Scott, nice bleeping FX in that one! ).

The Smith logo took some tweaking to get it just right (thanks for the help on that, Ben!), but we finally got it.

Dino.

[warmcanofcoke]

Just had a crazy idea - I often have sung the praises of Spoonflower.com for making custom fabric - I've made a lot of Doctor Who Fabric in my time. - Now they are branching out into wallpaper and wall decals - Maybe we should upload a St. John Ambulance logo up and see what sort of quality they can provide. http://www.spoonflower.com/create - I suppose other Tardis type signs could also be made. 

[galacticprobe]

Nate, let me know if you want the high-res versions of my Hartnell and Matt Smith St. John logos to upload. (The Cushing logo, which is basically the real Police Box logo, I've also got, but it's not as high-res since I didn't create it: I found it through Google Images.)

For accuracy, you'd have to size the Hartnell and Smith logos to 5-inch diameter (they're quite large in their JPEG form). The Cushing/Police Box logo would have to be enlarged a little to the 6-inch diameter since I couldn't find a very large one.

Dino.

[warmcanofcoke]

I'll take all three - I just need to know the size they have to print out as.

[deck5]

For accuracy, you'd have to size the Hartnell and Smith logos to 5-inch diameter (they're quite large in their JPEG form). The Cushing/Police Box logo would have to be enlarged a little to the 6-inch diameter since I couldn't find a very large one.

I believe, from my recent work, that the logo on the Hartnell box is 4.5" across, not 5".

[galacticprobe]

Now I'll have to check on the size of the Hartnell and Smith logos. I thought I read in one of my books or in a history of the prop that the Hartnell logo was 5 inches (certainly smaller than that on a real box), and that the Matt Smith logo was the same size.

Dino.